VonNoble Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 What defines a person as old?And what defines a person as wise?Is it likely a person age 20 - 25 would be widely viewed as wise?Von Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Gray Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 It's subjective depending on the group judging (for both old and wise) as well as the subject (for wise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev.Fred Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 It would depend. Would wise mean experience only or personal ideas as well? I think a 20 year old who has seen a lot of deaths would be wiser, in that context, than a 40 yr. old who hasn't experienced the pain of losing a loved one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorian Gray Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 Here is an example. Where I work (my office) I am the boss, with 3 times the time in the service as my subordinates at 28 and have 2 brand new butter bars sitting in to "learn" what we do. They all refer to me as "the old man" or "the old Sarge" at 28. They are all under 22 and have been in less then 3 years where I am 28 and have been in 10 and "half way to retirement". Now compare that to working in civilian company, I would likely be still on the "young" side of the fence while also being on the lower end of the experiance chain. In conjuction with being "old" I also have a wide range of experience that makes me "go to" guy for how to get things done and for "sage" advice. Even the butterbars will pull me a side and ask me for a "mentorship session" to help them grow in to thier new positions. They legally outrank me, but both already realise that I have far my years of practical experience that can not be taught in a college, even a service academy.Now all that said, it really just illustrates that old and wise are truly subjective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grateful Posted September 17, 2008 Report Share Posted September 17, 2008 (The older I get, the older I think old is)Surely it depends on the individual but I must say,I was a bit of a knucklehead in my twentiesRecently, I was thinking back, considering that when I was my daughter's age, I had a six year old, my vision of my futurewas clear, but I had no idea of the twists and turns life takes, I just hadn't experienced enough yet.It seems like I've lived many lives since then,when I thought I was pretty well traveled and worldlyI had so much to experience and learn - if I only knew, maybe better I didn't!Experience, living every day and being open to possibilities makes one wise, IMHOmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplicitys-brother Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Websters says:Wisdom.......Power of judging rightly and and following the soundest course...I can stick with that, age doesn't matter. Sounds a lot like ethics to me. Do the right thing and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samadhi Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 The subjective mind of the self defines someone as old or wise, and a subjective mind is one that is prone to error... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youch Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 What defines a person as old? And what defines a person as wise?Is it likely a person age 20 - 25 would be widely viewed as wise?VonWhat defines a person as old? AgeAnd what defines a person as wise? WisdomIs it likely a person age 20 - 25 would be widely viewed as wise? Generally no. On rare occasions, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eynion De' Tilston Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Those who are older the Me are old.Those that are younger then me are "kids".Those who I agree with are wise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Maybe different levels of wisdom come at different stages of your life!The wise are always updating and learning We can learn from each other. I learn from my students, grandkids, my own kids, co-workers, people on this and other forums I'm a life long learner, always gaining new insights and upgrading my wisdom . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 Yes. And sometimes the majority is color-blind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Ed Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 It would depend. Would wise mean experience only or personal ideas as well? I think a 20 year old who has seen a lot of deaths would be wiser, in that context, than a 40 yr. old who hasn't experienced the pain of losing a loved one.I agree - it all depends on the person. While, in general, most 40 year olds know more than most 20 year olds, this need not be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Sean Posted September 18, 2008 Report Share Posted September 18, 2008 What defines a person as old?I've heard it said that you're only as old as you feel. Somedays I feel ancient, but maybe that's just stress. And what defines a person as wise?As for 'wise', that's much more difficult to define. There's an adage that says that the truly wise are those that know their ignorance; I personally am for that position. Is it likely a person age 20 - 25 would be widely viewed as wise?Likely not, I should think. Although, my four-year-old niece is about as wise as a person as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qryos Posted September 19, 2008 Report Share Posted September 19, 2008 ~ Wisdom. Generally seen as experience isn't it? Is it likely a person age 20 - 25 would be widely viewed as wise?Could be. Could not.My husband's mother died when he was 8. He was left alone with his 3 younger siblings for 10 days. His grandmother lived 5 miles away. He called her every day & she just said "Your father's coming." & hung up.He killed their pet rabbits to feed them because no one would come & they were hungry. His father was in another state dealing with government stuff & had to get clearance & so, a week & a half an eight-year old boy was left alone.With a five-year old brother, and a three-year old sister and two-year old sister. To feed for ten days. With no word about their mother.{I'm sorry, but I am so still angry at that old bitch! His grandmother left those children because of her anger? I met her. Seriously, not a nice person to anyone.I realise that she probably had reasons to be so nasty to everyone around her always. But children begging for help & she ignored? I don't understand.}... Yes, I babbled. Sorry if it annoys, but there's a reason...Simply because someone experiences horrid crap as a child does not endow wisdom.If that were true every child born into a crack house would be a font. No. All they learn is how to survive.{Which yes, could be considered a form of wisdom, but I don't think that's what we're talking about? }I love my husband crazy-style, forever. He's wise when it comes to me But neither of us would I consider 'Wise'. Getting older, well yeah. 49, 48, generally considered getting so. Feel older than that quite often. {I've been manic-depressive since 9. Wears ya out.}Wisdom? I don't know as how anyone ever feels wise. It's others that claim one so.Age? It's what you confine youself to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark 45 Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 and at what age is that great infusion of wisdom supposed to happen?i've been waiting for awhile.wisdom and intellegence are two different things,although ageing does allow us to learn more and mabye become wiser,it isn't a gaurentee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverRose Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 Although, my four-year-old niece is about as wise as a person as I know.I'm not surprised... your comment brought up this question: how frequently do you (or anyone else) think it is that a youngster is truly "wise" (or other positive qualities) UNTIL someone comes along and presses the child to doubt himself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplicitys-brother Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 When a child plays and adults don't believe it the child ceases to play that way and the stupidity begins.If a child plays cowboys and indians for example, they are remembering cowboys and Indians and then adults in our "wisdom" say it couldn't be that way, they have to believe as we tell them because we are the ones who feed them.We are so foolish when it comes to"wisdom". And those who sit in their ivory towers and wear sweaters with leather elbows and write books for others like them to read are the worst.And those who play with their kids and talk to them and listen to them may be the wisest of us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevRainbow Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 The old-country adage: " We grow too soon old and too late smart." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormson Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 I am very, very old at 40... And I used to be very, very, wise, when I was 20 or so... Of course, I was invincible then too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pegasuss Posted September 27, 2008 Report Share Posted September 27, 2008 What defines a person as old?And what defines a person as wise?Is it likely a person age 20 - 25 would be widely viewed as wise?Von(The older I get, the older I think old is)mmgood answerI am very, very old at 40... And I used to be very, very, wise, when I was 20 or so... Of course, I was invincible then too... Ah yes the wise invincible years.I feel younger now at 57 than I have ever felt, My friends are generally 1/2 my age, so I say it is relative.Wise I cant answer, I know some young ones who have the wisdom of hundreds of years and some olderwho are most defiantly un-wise. Again relative to the person.Pegasuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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