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  1. It seems this practice had value to you, MyanarWultan, so it was useful. In my recent year long learning session with some people from the Navajo tribe, I have a passing observation. The Boy Scouts have been around in the United States for roughly a hundred years. The inception of programs to make any of us appreciate nature and or the first peoples inhabiting this land were at one time both, innovative and culturally a gateway moment of understanding. Perhaps, with the Native population being largely generous and patient with non-Natives who truly want to learn and appreciate their culture, perhaps, Native input into these practices would be a betterment of the original program. I suspect strongly the original national program and script had to be approved by the organizational leadership in Irving, Texas at some point. When the Order of the Arrow was a pilot program, there was scant Native Americans in leadership roles in the organization. Perhaps, your good experience can be bettered by updating the program, and validating the Native overtones ....by actually including and acknowledging Native Leadership into the improvements. Von
  2. This year I opted to invest some time to see if I can personally appreciate this concept. After LOTS of time walking (can't run) - I understand this notion more fully. With the help of the Native Health Initiative...the group Running Medicine was able to provide me with a much greater understanding of the spiritual side of running/walking. I am grateful to them for their generous (and unconditional) support. I NOW appreciate and believe there is merit to setting aside (daily) running/walking as a spiritual enrichment. Truly this is a new, remarkable and valuable lesson from the Native community. Von
  3. Walking (or alternative movement if ambulation is not possible) is healthful. Physically, mentally, socially, psychologically etc. Is it also of spiritual benefit? Can is rival religion for self improvement? Does it contribute to the surrounding community? How important an appointment with self to MOVE your body? Do you find it to be meditative? Do you find more mental agility coincides with physical action? thx Von
  4. In continuing this pondering, I am hypothesizing a couple of things. Buddhism CAN BE/is... simply a philosophy. As such it allows a more inclusive approach to differing points of view. Understanding a higher priority than conversion (which is a low to no approach with Buddhism.) It is not necessary to "save" others. It is encouraged to recognize interdependence of life. Compassionate though and action towards others; improves you. Buddhism CAN BE a religion as all foundations/traditions of religious practice are available if desired. God belief and rituals are optional. "Buddha" require no belief but rather an encouragement to challenge teachings and teachers. PRACTICING understanding of self leads to acceptance of both self and others. Still mulling things around. Sound correct to you? Observations of others welcome. Von
  5. Insightful. Particularly the "rush" accompanying violence. BTW, I was surprised to learn you are large in stature. I already knew you were pretty darn tall/deep in thought. von
  6. Sounds like Dan56 offered humor with a smile. Much appreciated. von
  7. In the early 1990s I had an occasion to meet with a Catholic priest several times in a social setting. He was a well educated man. And a missionary to Bangladesh for (at that time almost 40 years.) He died after more than 50-years of working there. One of many ideas exchanged was, if he had not been born and raised and educated in the United States, he suspected his religion of choice would be Buddhism. When I raised an eyebrow he added, of course is very much a faithful Catholic. However, if in his younger days he had been exposed to Buddhism he would have, perhaps, chosen that for his path. His other surprising statement is that he studied, as a Catholic priest in his mid-life years with some Buddhist monks. His conclusion is that Buddhism was compatible with most other religions. One need not give up any base religion to practice Buddhist philosophy. He also noted that "Everyone is Buddhist in some way" they just don't realize it - yet" I have been pondering a good long time about these things. I suspect the supposition that early exposure influences ones later choices is likely true. It also seems true that many people of many base religions incorporate some form of or appreciation for Buddhism right along with other helpful values. I am still pondering that last point. At heart is everyone, in some fashion - Buddhist in thought or action?
  8. It has come to my attention by way of learned Apache and Navajo teachers - running can be a very spiritual event. Walking too, has a spiritual component. I am not referencing a euphoric high effect, though I am told that can happen from running enthusiasts. I am talking about an actual belief in the power of healing (physically as well as non-physical attributes) associated and connected with native culture/beliefs. Would someone more adept at this point of view assist me in explaining it, perhaps with better terminology. I am neither native, nor a runner so an actual participant might allow the rest of us additional insight von
  9. Jonathan H. b. Lobl, your answer = education Key, Judgement equal bias. I thank you both. When a disaster occurs, and I am unfamiliar with the area, I may run without knowing which way is the safest. In fear, might run along side anyone I assess to look like they know what they are doing. Short of a disaster where survival could over-ride bias and education. Are we educated to have bias? Whom or what drives learned judgment and bias? von
  10. Instinctively we assess survival risks, calculate danger and threats. Laws of society/ culture establish norms. We evaluate prices, time expenditures, and other people using acquired information and experience filters. Can judgement be taught? Legislated? Weaponized? von
  11. After completing an upper level entomology class (that was fascinating) (but tough!)... I overheard two of my classmates speculating on insect intelligence. They are, by sheer numbers, the dominant creatures on planet earth. The have survived, adapted, and thrived longer than other animals. They have proven they can be altruistic, and some live in complex societies. Are they intelligent? They are strategic in warfare, brutal in hunting, loyal in colonies, brilliant in engineering, and effective in communications. They can triage wounded members in battle, and haul back likely survivors. They can “mind control” victims, go on raiding parties for slaves, and coerce others to raise their young. But are they intelligent? Sentient? von
  12. Actually...... that is HELPFUL to know! Thank you. von
  13. ANYONE see RENT? I am thinking that has to be better as a live performance, right? von
  14. First my admiration for your continued reasoned and reasonable responses. 2nd... kudos for your gracious handling of the age of the cosmos-I have zero reason to doubt your number... I never looked it up....I took the number from two biology students who sit in front of me (arguing about it after their mid-term).... I took the more conservative number of the two numbers they were tossing about .... I do suspect neither of them got a 100% on the mid-term.... my apologies for being lazy and not actually looking it up. For purposes of the discussion -your number works just fine. i am familiar with punctuated equalibrium and for me the jury is still out... we share an interest in needing a bit more evidence to accept that as VERY LIKELY. with continued respect von