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  2. Modern Evangelicals and Satan. Look who is advising President Trump. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2020/01/trump-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-orders-end-to-satanic-pregnancies/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Imagine+No+Religion&utm_content=44
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  4. I saw a nice conversation where Ricky Gervais explained to Stephen Colbert the difference between religion and science very succinctly: Now, that's not an opinion... it's a fact.
  5. I read it. It's an interesting, thoughtful piece. Thank you. I'm going to have to think about this.
  6. A theory is made when it is supported by demonstrable proof and stands until a more accurate theory explains things better. The bible has no demonstrable proof and is supported by nothing more than the religion itself. Hence, in religion you get circular arguments like the bible is the word of god because it says it is and the only proof it has is that it says it is. That is not scientific or to be placed on the same plateau as scientific theories. The bible is not scientific and contradicts all that science stands on.
  7. I read a quite discerning article on this topic yesterday: Why religion is not going away and science will not destroy it by Peter Harrison (an Australian Laureate Fellow and director of the Institute for Advanced Studies in the Humanities at the University of Queensland).
  8. Yet more scientific illiteracy Dan. Theory is scientific fact. Like the theory of gravity... just realized the pointlessness of this.
  9. Scientific facts don't conflict with the bible. You simply prefer theories to the bible. Proper interpretation is not an attempt to harmonize anything, but rather an effort to properly understand what's written. If I interpreted the bible like you do, I wouldn't believe it either. Faith comes from hearing and understanding (Romans 10:17). In Job, Satan is God's servant. Satan does nothing without God's permission -- then Satan follows God's instructions -- Including God's limits. Satan is not God's enemy. Satan is God's District Attorney. God is the judge, who issues the orders and is obeyed by Satan. This is what I find in the Jewish Scriptures. I will heed the New Testament -- when you heed the Koran. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  10. Scientific facts don't conflict with the bible. You simply prefer theories to the bible. Proper interpretation is not an attempt to harmonize anything, but rather an effort to properly understand what's written. If I interpreted the bible like you do, I wouldn't believe it either. Faith comes from hearing and understanding (Romans 10:17). Satan is not an entity conjured up by Christians, he is the same accuser and adversary in both testaments. And God does not work with Satan, they are opponents. If you paid attention to what's written, you'd know that. "And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him. And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night." (Revelation 12: 9&10) He didn't have to redeem us (believers), but he did. Breaking a law requires punishment, "He hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many" (Isaiah 53). There you have it, and its not difficult to understand. "And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission" (Hebrews 9:22). He didn't redeem us from the law, but for breaking the law! Yes...
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  12. Christ was God on earth but had to redeem us from god's law? No...
  13. Ha Satan worked with god as the accuser. Christianity invented the Christian notion of Satan. Christianity has suffered from a lack of knowledge about Judaism and so invented its own dialogue.
  14. "If I'm not mistaken, you don't believe Noah's flood was world-wide either?" The Bible is mythology. It is not a source of truth and I do not take a lot of it seriously, on any level. This is not about my personal belief. I read the Bible. I know what the Bible said about the Flood story. The bulk of the Christian world, agrees with my understanding of that story. "You've stated that from a scientific perspective, it wouldn't have been possible." From a scientific perspective, the Flood story is impossible. When science conflicts with the Bible, I go with science. You obviously go with the Bible. Attempting to harmonize them, by this silly cheery picking, is futile. You might like to look up Ken Ham, and Answers in Genesis. That is mainstream Christian Evangelical thought. You seem confused about my belief in the Bible. This is my favorite quote on the subject. "The Bible is equal parts History, Science and Pizza."
  15. You are misinformed, the same Satan that showed-up in Job was the same Satan that tempted Christ in the wilderness. I know most here have no faith, but here's a true story about a proven Test of Faith by a Pennsylvania woman, who believed God would protect her....and He did. https://www.cnn.com/2020/01/20/us/car-crash-god-pennsylvania/index.html I'm sure your non-believing attitudes will be severely shaken when you get some real modern day evidence that God is real and performed a miracle by protecting His own!!
  16. The Devil? In Judaism? You are misinformed. The accuser -- Ha Satan -- shows up in Job. He is not the Christian Devil.
  17. If I'm not mistaken, you don't believe Noah's flood was world-wide either? You've stated that from a scientific perspective, it wouldn't have been possible. When read correctly, whenever the bibles speaks about all the erets, its simply referencing all the land that's relevant to the story being told, and not the entire earth. Whereas, the flood of Noah destroyed all the land possessed by the corrupted descendants of Adam.
  18. I wasn't saying that at all.. The penalty for sin is why Christ came, its what he redeemed us from. Some Christians are idiots and biblicaly illiterate. There won't be an apocalyptic war that ushers in the return of Christ. As Christ said, it will be as in the days of Noah, and the anti-Christ won't be warlike. There will never be a third Temple either. Its received by faith... No, there were no non-Hebrew witnesses. No, Judaism rejects Christ and the NT.. The Jews were looking for another earthly king, one who would physically deliver them from captivity (yet again). Even Judas thought Christ was the one who would liberate them from Roman rule. But prophecy proclaimed a spiritual deliverer, one who would defeat death, sin, and the devil.
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  20. Dan acts like his own denomination. The obvious example, being this weird doctrine of his, about Noah's flood. That it was a local event, instead of the World wide flood taught by the rest of Christianity. The Bible is literal, except where it isn't. Dan knows which is which.
  21. although Dan will totally disagree but the Evangelicals are a split off too. The church who debated what to believe under Constantine was the church of Rome. That church crushed the voice of others including the Jews so they could control things. It was not until Luther broke away did so many other church give birth, each claiming they more accurately interpreted the bible. It's been break away all down the line until you come to the church of Dan😀.
  22. Now, a word from Trump's Godly supporters. I can be even handed https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/carl-gallups-those-who-hate-trump-have-a-demonic-spirit-in-them/
  23. Actually, traditional Judaism makes a distinction. There is the written Law -- and the Oral tradition. Both came down the mountain with Mosses.
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