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That joseph of arimethea (sp?) went to britian is a medieval legend and has no basis in history. Beli the great was an ancestral diety. A great hero or god that nobility traced its origins too. Such as woden for the english or freyr for the swedes. The marriage to anna (a later attribute of beli) was added to medieval lineages to give royalty heritage in christianity and connections to the holy land. This was extremely common then with some even adding Noah alongside pagan gods in lineages.

Actually Josh it was some not very pagan roots that prevailed. The pagan themed stuff was a part of the SS under himmler, an avid occultist, and was not part of the Nazi party as a whole.. It is all attributed to one man Karl Maria Wiligut. Who ripped off Guido von List and his ariosophy and even added List's Wotanism, in his own take on history which went back 300,000 years and that he had direct access too through his DNA, as coming after his religion and persecuting it throughout time.. He was a man who spent a good amount of time in mental institiutions and at one hospitalization being put there by his own wife and when himmler found out about this(to his embarrasment) he forced him to retire. He claimed to follow the "original" pagan religion of germanics called "irminism" by him. He also claimed be of a secret line of German kingship. He had List's followers, neopagans, and other occultists he didn't endorse jalied and put in concentration camps. Even his so called "paganism" had heavily christian overtones. He claimed the bible had originally been written in a form of german and that he worshipped "the Krist." Whom christianity had stolen and made their savior but was actually an ancient germanic god.The Nazi's were in the majority Christian and endorsed christianity heavily. http://en.wikipedia....i/Nazi#Religion Oh and Godwins law always wins out. The history channel is fun and all but it's main purpose is entertainment and all of its claims should be further investigated as I have personally seen it many times portray many things falsely and spread misinformation.

I don't want to rain on your parade so all I will say is congratulations

I have yet to stop learning or finding things to question. As I get older I find I have more questions than answers. The more knowledge I obtain the less I know. Thus my eternal search continues. The day I stop learning I assume will be the day I am no longer counted among the living. I find age to be meaningless at a certain point.

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Conservatism?

Good luck rabbi.

I do not personally adhere to abrahamic concepts.

Christianity started out as a sect of jews.

Antitheism has always had a place here and adds to our wonderful array of beliefs. Now proponents of it have not always been able to contribute or play nice with others but that's beside the point. Agreed hermano. Welcome to the forum and I'm looking forward to seeing a messianic view here.

Please elaborate.

I can be quite intolerant given the situation. As far as this situation goes I see nothing wrong with it. Let them clean up and adopt the highway.

Very good Sb, I agree.Those of a christian mindset probably tend to find hope comforting as they expect to be taken care of. Hope, at best imo, is nothing more than wishful thinking. I would much rather have fortitude and resolve rather than hope. As the ancient saying goes "The Gods help them that help themselves" ~Hercules the Strong excellent SB.

In another thread hyper posted a Nietzsche quote. Rather then address it most just decided to attack Nietzsche rather then his argument. A fairly common knee jerk reaction when it comes to Nietzsche. I thought I would post the quote in its original context for discussion. Hope. Pandora brought the jar 25 with the evils and opened it. It was the gods' gift to man, on the outside a beautiful, enticing gift, called the "lucky jar." Then all the evils, those lively, winged beings, flew out of it. Since that time, they roam around and do harm to men by day and night. One single evil had not yet slipped out of the jar. As Zeus had wished, Pandora slammed the top down and it remained inside. So now man has the lucky jar in his house forever and thinks the world of the treasure. It is at his service; he reaches for it when he fancies it. For he does not know that that jar which Pandora brought was the jar of evils, and he takes the remaining evil for the greatest worldly good--it is hope, for Zeus did not want man to throw his life away, no matter how much the other evils might torment him, but rather to go on letting himself be tormented anew. To that end, he gives man hope. In truth, it is the most evil of evils because it prolongs man's torment. ~Nietszche http://nietzsche.hol...al_Feelings.htm Thoughts?

Freemen should never regulate their conduct by the suggestions or dicta of others, for when they do so, they are no longer free. No man ought to obey any contract, written or implied, except he himself has given his personal and formal adherence thereto, when in a state of mental maturity and unrestrained liberty. It is only slaves that are born into contracts, signed and sealed by their progenitors. The freeman is born free, lives free and dies free. He is (even though living in an artificial civilization) above all laws, all constitutions, all theories of right and wrong. He supports and defends them of course, as long as they suit his own end, but if they don’t, then he annihilates them by the easiest and most direct method. There is no obligation upon any man to passive obedience, when his life, his liberty and his property are threatened by footpad, assassin or statesman. ~Ragnar Redbeard

He that is slow to believe anything and everything is of great understanding, for belief in one false principle is the beginning of all unwisdom ~ The Book of Satan 2:7

Numbers 31Thoughts?

Personally I would like to hear your take on the Tanahk and God Rabbi. If you would indulge I would be very grateful and I'm sure the education to all of us would be invaluable.

Such as? I know he had a few businesses and what not but they were failures. According to whom? I'm not sure you understand what my assessment consists of.

He's always seemed to be the democrat's version of Bush to me.

The word God comes from germanic Godan (or proto germanic gudan which wasn't entirely gender specific) a name of the God Odin and specifically used by I believe the Lombards. Technically when you refer to God you are naming another diety of pagan origin and not your own. Your god has a name and it's not God. When ulifas(sp?) translated the bible into Gothic (an alphabet he made and then taught to the Goth's for this purpose, to avoid using the Runic alphabet of the heathens) he used the term God to denote the christian god for the first time. Probably made it easier to convert when the god in this new book bears a version of their chief/creator god's name anyway.

I'm not sure you understoodd what I was saying. You are more then welcome to feel sorry for me

God is a hypothesis.