Cornelius

I just come from an orthpraxic viewpoint rather than an orthodoxic one. Thank you for understanding my dilemma. I admire your faith even if I do not share it.

Matthew 10:34-4034 "Do not think that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace, but a sword. 35 For I have come to set a man against his father, and a daughter against her mother, and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; 36 and a man's foes will be those of his own household. 37 He who loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and he who loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me; 38 and he who does not take his cross and follow me is not worthy of me. 39 He who finds his life will lose it, and he who loses his life for my sake will find it.

I think we are using different definitions for the term righteous.In terms of the bible. There are three righteous people right there. I'm sure if I took some time I could find more the bible names as righteous.Why do you say unbelievers hate Christ? I like Christ I think he was a decent person ifhe existed. His propensity for socialism was very kindand loving. He ate with the sinners and walked among lepers. Now what his followers have done and what has been done in his name is another story. If there are gods and they are just, then they will not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the virtues you have lived by. That speaks volumes to me. Good people roasting in gehenna while murderers, rapists, pedophiles, people that have done little to no good and incredible evil etc. are in heaven is an abomination. Just because they didn't believe the "right" myth. This is unjust and I fail to see how a god that behaves in such a way is just. I can't accept such a world rejecting philosophy that makes our actions while we are here meaningless and everything focusing and relying on an afterlife reward that may not even exist.

I would suggest a dna test. Ancestry.com offers one for around a hundred bucks for members but there is a waiting list. If you have jewish heritage there will be genetkc markers. While this won't confirm your story you would have a verifiable link to judaism and yaweh.

I am not a pacifist. I try to live as peacefully as possible and for the most part I have been successful. Imho I find the christian belief that a wicked person who has faith and asks for forgiveness will be saved and go to heaven and a righteous person who does not believe will go to hell to be a perversion of what is just. As ones actions do not matter but merely their theological tendencies in this sytem. I find a god who would set up such a system to be unjust and not worthy of worship..

Works for me

I'm glad your ok stormy was getting worried.

I'm glad to see you back on this forum

Yw everyone

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=aU1wLryjuEw&NR=1

Agreed.

It has also been shown through studies that people who are more physically attractive have a higher rate of charges being dropped, lighter sentencing, and get preferential treatment in general. Those who are less attractive are found get harsher sentencing. This is a deep seeded bias that happens on multiple levels and may be a result of evolutionary tendencies.

That is why they claimed he was not a jew but an aryan silly. Similar to the Christian identity movement today who claim that abraham was white and the ten lost tribes are the europeans.

I don't see how you have negated anything I have said.The Government as an entity was christian. The Nazi party adopted positive christianity as its official doctrine. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Positive_ChristianityMore wiki for ya!!!

That joseph of arimethea (sp?) went to britian is a medieval legend and has no basis in history. Beli the great was an ancestral diety. A great hero or god that nobility traced its origins too. Such as woden for the english or freyr for the swedes. The marriage to anna (a later attribute of beli) was added to medieval lineages to give royalty heritage in christianity and connections to the holy land. This was extremely common then with some even adding Noah alongside pagan gods in lineages.

Actually Josh it was some not very pagan roots that prevailed. The pagan themed stuff was a part of the SS under himmler, an avid occultist, and was not part of the Nazi party as a whole.. It is all attributed to one man Karl Maria Wiligut. Who ripped off Guido von List and his ariosophy and even added List's Wotanism, in his own take on history which went back 300,000 years and that he had direct access too through his DNA, as coming after his religion and persecuting it throughout time.. He was a man who spent a good amount of time in mental institiutions and at one hospitalization being put there by his own wife and when himmler found out about this(to his embarrasment) he forced him to retire. He claimed to follow the "original" pagan religion of germanics called "irminism" by him. He also claimed be of a secret line of German kingship. He had List's followers, neopagans, and other occultists he didn't endorse jalied and put in concentration camps. Even his so called "paganism" had heavily christian overtones. He claimed the bible had originally been written in a form of german and that he worshipped "the Krist." Whom christianity had stolen and made their savior but was actually an ancient germanic god.The Nazi's were in the majority Christian and endorsed christianity heavily. http://en.wikipedia....i/Nazi#Religion Oh and Godwins law always wins out. The history channel is fun and all but it's main purpose is entertainment and all of its claims should be further investigated as I have personally seen it many times portray many things falsely and spread misinformation.

I don't want to rain on your parade so all I will say is congratulations

I have yet to stop learning or finding things to question. As I get older I find I have more questions than answers. The more knowledge I obtain the less I know. Thus my eternal search continues. The day I stop learning I assume will be the day I am no longer counted among the living. I find age to be meaningless at a certain point.

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Conservatism?

Good luck rabbi.

I do not personally adhere to abrahamic concepts.

Christianity started out as a sect of jews.

Antitheism has always had a place here and adds to our wonderful array of beliefs. Now proponents of it have not always been able to contribute or play nice with others but that's beside the point. Agreed hermano. Welcome to the forum and I'm looking forward to seeing a messianic view here.