Christian Threats of Damnation

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

Christian Threats of Damnation

 

https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/04/02/pastor-checks-his-phone-warns-atheists-stop-dragging-people-to-hell/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Imagine+No+Religion&utm_content=44

 

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

 

[mark 45]

nothing new on the planet.

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

1 hour ago, mark 45 said:

nothing new on the planet.

 

 

Not new at all.  Only irritating.     And stupid.       

 

 

 

[cuchulain]

I dont think i'll mind hell so much.  I mean, all the best people are going, right?  And the parties have to be better.  I'm certain at least the music is better...

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

3 hours ago, cuchulain said:

I dont think i'll mind hell so much.  I mean, all the best people are going, right?  And the parties have to be better.  I'm certain at least the music is better...

 

 

Consider Heaven.  All of eternity with God.  The supreme egotist.  Jealous, petty, vain, spiteful, vengeful, mean, cruel, vicious, insecure -- in constant need of praise, adoration, worship and having his ego stroked.  Worse, knowing every thought you have, before you're aware of it.  It goes on and on and on forever.  Praise, adoration and worship.  You better mean it.  The All Knowing will know if your faking.

 

Next to Heaven, how bad can Hell be?

 

 

 

 

[Dan56]

I'm pretty sure the threatening sermons will stop now.. There was just some anxiety caused by the COVID19 pandemic, but Trump has taken some of the stress off the back of churches by including them in the Cares Act relief package. I guess the separation of church and state was suspended due to the economic hardships that religious organizations are having? Can't pass the collection plate around when the government won't let crowds gather together.  Nothing to fear now, your tax dollars are hard at work 

 

The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (the CARES Act), signed into law by President Donald Trump on March 27, 2020, provides $2.2 trillion of emergency appropriations in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Religious Institutions and the CARES Act: A Closer Look
Certain provisions are applicable to religious institutions
- Loans for Religious Institutions
- Assistance for Mid-Size Religious Institutions
- Disaster Assistance Loans for Religious Institutions of Any Size
- Unemployment Reimbursements

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

4 hours ago, Dan56 said:

I'm pretty sure the threatening sermons will stop now.. There was just some anxiety caused by the COVID19 pandemic, but Trump has taken some of the stress off the back of churches by including them in the Cares Act relief package. I guess the separation of church and state was suspended due to the economic hardships that religious organizations are having? Can't pass the collection plate around when the government won't let crowds gather together.  Nothing to fear now, your tax dollars are hard at work 

 

The Coronavirus Aid, Relief, and Economic Security Act (the CARES Act), signed into law by President Donald Trump on March 27, 2020, provides $2.2 trillion of emergency appropriations in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
Religious Institutions and the CARES Act: A Closer Look
Certain provisions are applicable to religious institutions
- Loans for Religious Institutions
- Assistance for Mid-Size Religious Institutions
- Disaster Assistance Loans for Religious Institutions of Any Size
- Unemployment Reimbursements

 

 

No.  It's the usual terrorist bull crap.  Any excuse to threaten Atheists with Hell Fire, will serve.  They make these stupid threats, because they can.  In turn, the threats will continue to fail, because they are stupid.

 

As usual, you are seizing every possible opportunity to be irritating.  Christian Love at it's finest.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 6, 2020 by Jonathan H. B. Lobl

[damnthing]

20 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:

 

 

Consider Heaven.  All of eternity with God.  The supreme egotist.  Jealous, petty, vain, spiteful, vengeful, mean, cruel, vicious, insecure -- in constant need of praise, adoration, worship and having his ego stroked.  Worse, knowing every thought you have, before you're aware of it.  It goes on and on and on forever.  Praise, adoration and worship.  You better mean it.  The All Knowing will know if your faking.

 

Next to Heaven, how bad can Hell be?

 

 

 

 

You do realize that this perfectly describes not just drumphs cabinet and advisors but his voters as well. I'm sure you do, just thought I'd point it out

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

12 minutes ago, damnthing said:

You do realize that this perfectly describes not just drumphs cabinet and advisors but his voters as well. I'm sure you do, just thought I'd point it out

 

 

I have long maintained that Trump is not the problem.  He's only a symptom.  The problem is all the people who voted Trump into office.  Further, the Republican party has turned into Trump's personal political cult.  The Evangelical leadership, have declared that Trump is God's anointed.

 

G.O.P. used to stand for Grand Old Party.  Now; it's the Party of God.  

 

 

 

 

[Dan56]

17 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:

As usual, you are seizing every possible opportunity to be irritating.  Christian Love at it's finest.

 

 

There was nothing irritating about my post, you just choose to characterize everything you disagree with as 'irritating".

 

And its funny how all these "no religion" topics are geared to slam Christianity, which of course is a religion... The "no religion" tag is really just a subliminal restriction of who can comment (atheist only).  

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

2 hours ago, Dan56 said:

 

There was nothing irritating about my post, you just choose to characterize everything you disagree with as 'irritating".

 

And its funny how all these "no religion" topics are geared to slam Christianity, which of course is a religion... The "no religion" tag is really just a subliminal restriction of who can comment (atheist only).  

 

 

" Nothing to fear now, your tax dollars are hard at work  "

 

 

That was you, being your usual irritating self.  After all your lectures on cultural dominance -- how your religion should be running my society -- you are consistent.  If you were wise -- or kind -- you would not seize this opportunity to be more irritating.  I will not be provoked.     

 

 

[mark 45]

5 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:

 

 

" Nothing to fear now, your tax dollars are hard at work  "

 

 

That was you, being your usual irritating self.  After all your lectures on cultural dominance -- how your religion should be running my society -- you are consistent.  If you were wise -- or kind -- you would not seize this opportunity to be more irritating.  I will not be provoked.     

 

 

i see it as more like sarcasm.here i thought dan was a 45 fan.

 

and dan,i dis agree with only atheists can post.you among others have,sometimes setting up a potential argument between yourself and jonathon,or pete;whichever is present at the time.maybe social distancing need be applied to posts also? 

[Pete]

On 4/4/2020 at 9:16 PM, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:

 

Firstly I don't believe there is a hell. I believe it is a Christian invention to threaten and control people.

Then there is the problem as to whether or not the bible contains any truth at all. I doubt it does.

He mentioned near death experience but omits to mention that people have experiences according to their belief structure. During the process of death the brain produces a large amount of endorphins and the person is just tripping on that endorphin. Therefore it is no proof of anything.

Then there is a moral arguement. If for arguments sake a god exists then to hold a grudge and punish someone for eternity is neither justice or moral. So the central goal of faith is not love. It is hate of human frailty.

So take your threats and shove them up your a....e.😠

Edited April 7, 2020 by Pete

[Dan56]

On 4/7/2020 at 3:17 AM, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:

 

" Nothing to fear now, your tax dollars are hard at work  "

 

That was you, being your usual irritating self.  After all your lectures on cultural dominance -- how your religion should be running my society -- you are consistent.  If you were wise -- or kind -- you would not seize this opportunity to be more irritating.  I will not be provoked.     

 

 

You get irritated and angry by everything I post, so your provoked all the time. You know, if you don't believe in hell, you wouldn't feel threatened by those who expound upon it as some kind of harsh reality. I sense that your secretly frightened?

 

22 hours ago, mark 45 said:

i see it as more like sarcasm.here i thought dan was a 45 fan.

 

and dan,i dis agree with only atheists can post.you among others have,sometimes setting up a potential argument between yourself and jonathon,or pete;whichever is present at the time.maybe social distancing need be applied to posts also? 

 

I simply posted a link to an article, and it wasn't a response to anyone specific. Yes I voted for 45, but I don't support bailing out churches. They don't pay taxes and shouldn't benefit from our tax dollars. Admittedly, there was a bit of  sarcasm,  but nothing abusive or insulting. I'll step out and let the disgruntled complain about the attributes of Christianity in this 'no religion' thread. Nothing but anger and intolerance here, and that's a virus I should apply some social distancing from.. But no matter where I post, the hatred of Christianity will prevail. 

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

42 minutes ago, Dan56 said:

 

You get irritated and angry by everything I post, so your provoked all the time. You know, if you don't believe in hell, you wouldn't feel threatened by those who expound upon it as some kind of harsh reality. I sense that your secretly frightened?

 

 

I simply posted a link to an article, and it wasn't a response to anyone specific. Yes I voted for 45, but I don't support bailing out churches. They don't pay taxes and shouldn't benefit from our tax dollars. Admittedly, there was a bit of  sarcasm,  but nothing abusive or insulting. I'll step out and let the disgruntled complain about the attributes of Christianity in this 'no religion' thread. Nothing but anger and intolerance here, and that's a virus I should apply some social distancing from.. But no matter where I post, the hatred of Christianity will prevail. 

 

 

I'm a gentleman.  Decorum prevents me from responding.     

 

 

 

[Pete]

Your faith creates a hell and then you threaten people with it. You think we are scared of your myth. No! Find someone who gives a damn about your made up mythic realms.

I just wish you would listen but you persist with what others see as stupidity.  Dan your full of BGS in the Irish terms.

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

34 minutes ago, Pete said:

Your faith creates a hell and then you threaten people with it. You think we are scared of your myth. No! Find someone who gives a damn about your made up mythic realms.

I just wish you would listen but you persist with what others see as stupidity.  Dan your full of BGS in the Irish terms.

 

 

Dan can't distinguish between fear and irritation.  It's useless.     

 

 

[Pete]

I know he is a stubborn pest. Like unto a fly in the ice cream. Full of his own importance and lack of reason or understanding, and thinking he is clever. 

[Jonathan H. B. Lobl]

10 minutes ago, Pete said:

I know he is a stubborn pest. Like unto a fly in the ice cream. Full of his own importance and lack of reason or understanding, and thinking he is clever. 

 

 

To me, Dan is more like a small dog.  The kind of little dog, that would break it's teeth if it tried to bite me.  I'm not afraid of the little dog; for all it's fierce barking.  Still, the barking is very annoying.  Also, it's not housebroken.  I'm tired of it peeing all over the board.