cuchulain

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  1. so the bible wasnt referencing a miracle with the burning bush story? really? or are you beinng dishonest with that piece? i dont believe that plant talks...and isnt it consumed? clearly you try to obfuscate the truth, that there is no evidence of a burning bush SPEAKING....didnt think i'd have to specify the important part of that story, but some simply cant grasp context i suppose.
  2. I don't believe in things until I have a decent reason to do so. I don't have to have perfect evidence, I don't have to have evidence that is iron clad. I don't believe in Unicorns because I haven't seen good evidence that they exist. I don't believe in Zeus, contrary to the fact that I have seen lightning and that it has been in the past ascribed to the actions of said being. I don't believe in Apollo, I see the sun though. No...I don't believe in the biblical version of God, either. I have similar reasoning for not believing in the biblical God as I do in Zeus, or Apollo. I believe science. I can point to Greek and Roman mythology and say...most everything in those books has turned out not to be true. I can point to Christian mythology and say, while there are some historical accuracies in terms of cities that existed, and perhaps some of the people were around, I have never seen a burning bush nor had a divine voice descend from the heavens and tell me anything. I have never seen prayer heal a severed arm or leg. I have never seen a demon or anything remotely resembling this evil that Christians insist is so prevalent. I can point to science and say there are many flaws and errors created in scientific investigation, but at the least the scientists are open to the possibility that they are wrong. I can point to the process in many things that I encounter on a daily basis, things that I use that are based on scientific principles, that without science couldn't exist. This computer is a prime example, as is the internet. As is the fact that I can see, because I wear contacts. As is the fact that my daughter is alive today. Science is inherently bound within so much of everything we do, and we see it work on a daily, even hourly basis. Some insist on calling this faith. Firm belief in something for which there is no proof. That is the very definition of faith. Is there proof that Zeus produces lightning because he is angry? No. There are written testimonies from superstitious ancient people. Is there proof that there was ever a burning bush? No. There are written testimonies from superstitious ancient people. Is there proof that levetiracetam helps prevent seizures? Yes. It has been studied extensively, tested, gone through the scientific process...and it actually produces results that are reproducible. So no...I don't have faith in science.
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    persecuted

    should have specified the uniited states. my error of omission. appologies. i'm having a debate with someone in ga about how they havent had any such experience recently as they are playing the victim card. thought i would see about others, it got me wondering how much of the claims are true in the u.s.
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    persecuted

    i get this argument a lot on forums, and the killer of the conversation is usually christian claims persecution. i ask for an example and its crickets. favor...if you can, produce an example of how you as a christian have been persecuted.
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    One covenant, or two?

    i can appreciate that stance, but i still dont believe the christian mythos or in any divinity.
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    One covenant, or two?

    if god exists and wants me to know it, i am sure he can figure out how to convince me before eternal hellfire...if he cares to.
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    One covenant, or two?

    if a tomb was produced that could be shown we would have something to debate, but seeing as nobody has a tomb of christ, empty or full, we'll not know one way or the other. as to miracles being written down, there's an author named Homer who wrote about all sorts of divine intervention on behalf of the greek and roman pantheons which i give equal credence to the christian myths. many oral traditional stories about tarannus and briga and maeve from celtic cultures, which hold equal value as well.
  8. my inability to disprove something is not proof of somethings existence.
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    saw a sign

    On my way home from the store today, I saw an advertisement sign on the side of the street kind of like the politicians use, it read "for sale clean dirt".
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    One covenant, or two?

    i would read it even in fragments. it always interested me that the man with so many enemies accorrding to the bible...had no enemies write propaganda against him. such a basic tool thaat the romans used regularly, yet not here. i guess its a lack that adds to my disbelief.
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    One covenant, or two?

    i always wonder about the gospel of the only scribe in the bunch and why its missing...even the illiterates of the group had a book. why not judas?
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    One covenant, or two?

    such a powerful liar, the devil, would probably be able to pose as an angel or prophetic vision to those who wrote the bible. insert some truth, but alter a few things so they arent loving...like killing witches and keeping slaves and such. its a good thing none of that obviously hateful stuff is in the book, or at least that people were smart enough not to have crusades or burnings over some words some superstitious middle easterner wroote down centuries ago.
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    One covenant, or two?

    I would consider the context of that agreement as a threat...he won't send water, he'll send fire, instead.
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    What do you do...?

    your right. i thought of it as a choice when i said that, but i dont view belief as a choice, so my premise was flawed. thanks for further explaining that.
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    What do you do...?

    nah. everyone has the right to peacefully determine what is right, or better. its part and parcel. a christian might say doing gods will makes you better person. i would define it as contributing to the community in part. someone else might say reducing the footprint, or being great to the family. i think if a person can consider what they can do to be better and try, they'll get somewhere. edited to say, better isnt always or usually easier...or unproblematic.
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    What do you do...?

    a thought...ask if the change will make you a better person?
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    What do you do...?

    i was a druid and am now an atheist. the change built slowly for me. i have always argued and debated christianity, but rarely did i apply the same logic to my own beliefs and i often found myself arguing from the atheist perspective, so i reevaluated my druidry piece by piece using the same standard and realized it was just as hokey as others i had thought of as wackos. when that happened i tried to find variations that made sense and couldn't. but i did find stoicism, which seemed to be a philosophy of logic after i discarded the idea of logos. i had trouble switching only because of my own naiveté.
  18. Something I have had trouble with as a person in general, but especially in the area of discussing my atheism, is understanding that I do not have to answer a bunch of questions. The conversation(or attempted conversion, if you will) usually goes something like..."I'm an atheist", and the response being "Why don't you believe in God?". That's right where I and many others mishandle things, I think. I have no burden to answer why I don't believe in God. When asked this question, I try to remember I don't have the burden to prove why I don't believe, but that the person who is at this point trying to convert me has the burden to show why I should believe. Often it is the case that a generally nice person will try to answer the questions put to them. A question places a lot of feelings on me, personally. Usually I feel like I owe the person asking some kind of response, it just seems like the polite thing, you know? I have been raised by people who believe in giving to each other, in respecting each other and treating each other the way we would like to be treated. For the most part, this is sound practice for me. But there are those people out there who know just what that means, and they use it to place a burden on me that doesn't exist but that I perceive nonetheless. Just a thought for the day, after dealing with some narcissistic personality types.
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    a common atheist fallacy

    atheism is defined as lacking belief in theism, or deity. i do not actively disbelieve, i'm not sure what that would entail. i simply don't believe in any deity. agnosticism is a person who neither disbelieves nor has faith in a god. asking why i don't believe in god is almost bigotry to the thousands of deities left out of the question. at best, not specific enough i.e. which god? and if a person wants to waste the time asking about every deity, that's a long wait. why not zeus, marduk kurios, ishtar, innanna, etc...? i start at the position of not believing and leave it up to the proselytizer to prove their deity, not me disproving thousands of religions. and the classic logic...it up to the person making a claim to prove it.
  20. its only fictional caring, though...i wonder if a thousand years from now if archaeology will discover a set of manuscripts detailing the life of a magical savior of the planet and a statue that proves we worshipped him in his home town in Metropolis.
  21. That's been my question. First, shouldn't we prove ANY god is real? I mean, they really don't care...if they aren't real.
  22. aren't ghosts supposed to be the spirits of the deceased? how do you catch a living dead thing?
  23. I'm still stuck on the idea of proving ANY deity as real...let alone that there are multiples counterfeiting each other. As an aside, I think there are myriad religions which have similarities to the point of being able to claim plagiarism in some sense, although I do not know that the actual religions did indeed "steal" from each other. Some ideas are accepted socially to the point that they could be termed universal, I believe. So I don't think it's an enormous stretch to conclude that multiple religions might have used the same mythological set up to express the ideas in very similar manners. I have been considering myself something of an oddball lately for the reason that I can find truth in any religion while believing in none of them, or at least while believing in none of the deities. Of course, the converse is also true in that I can find falsehood in every religion.
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    My Ban

    I take breaks from this site of two to three days at a time often and don't even notice such things. I wonder if I have ever been banned, and just didn't know? Sorry to hear this happened to you in any case. I often find myself wondering how often administration checks this site, or if they bother with reading many of the topics. There are times where it seems like some people blatantly violate the rules and nothing is said about it. Maybe it's worked behind the scenes, so to speak, and they contact the members directly and privately. I think it might have greater effect on the membership to see that actions(words, at least) have consequences when they violate rules. But in your case, I cannot see that you violated anything and would work on the assumption it was a malfunction or mistake. Still, I can certainly understand wanting an apology. Administration has made the analogy in the past of this site being similar to someone's house, and us all as guests who follow certain decorum rules...and if we don't we are asked to leave. If you were asked to leave in error at someone's house, the proper decorum would be to apologize I think.
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    a common atheist fallacy

    if this is the case, then how does the bible do so?