Dan56

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  1. Its not wishful thinking, the truth can't change. If it could, it wouldn't be the truth.. But of course, if you alter the circumstances by which a truth is established, then a truth can be altered or canceled.. e.g; I tell you that a lit stick of dynamite is about to explode, but you pull the fuse out preventing an explosion. What I said was true, but you changed the parameters by which a conclusion was derived. So if you told me that its raining out, and I'll get wet if I go outside, that's the truth,. But if I take an umbrella and don't get wet, did you lie? No, I just added a dimension (umbrella) to the equation which preventing your truth from occurring..
  2. debt not sin

    Its unconditional in the sense that you can't pay for it and you can't earn it.. Its conditional because you must receive it.. If you were drowning and someone threw you a life preserver, the only condition to saving your life is your willingness to accept it. That's the essence of John 3:16, everlasting life is promised to whosoever believeth. An unconditional offer to any who will receive it. A hypocrite is someone who says one thing and does another, its knowing what's right but going the opposite direction. God doesn't forgive hypocrites until they repent, and neither should we... jmo
  3. Very true.. The honest truth is an evasive thing, and in my experience, people who demand it, often have a negative reaction when they get it. Kind of like Trump saying that Haiti is a crappy hole, then being branded a racist for stating the obvious.
  4. debt not sin

    God is good, we aren't, so its very realistic to hold Him to the highest plane. The bible doesn't teach to forgive those who forgive you, but to forgive those who repent of their trespasses against you. From my biblical understanding, both love and forgiveness are conditional. In your scenario, its not robbing Peter to pay Paul. Our debt (sins) against God have already been paid for, but it is contingent on our willingness to forgive others as God has forgiven us. Its just saying that we can't expect God to forgive us of all our faults, while we refuse to forgive anyone ourselves. We wouldn't be a follower of his example, but a hypocrite. "I will cancel the debt, as long as you pay it off first.".. No, our debts (sins) were already paid in full on Calvary, and it was paid unconditionally for anyone who willingly accepts it.
  5. debt not sin

    I wouldn't say "on the same level", sin is sin, but we can't expect God to forgive us if we refuse to forgive others.. Its like expecting God to love us even though we hate everyone else. "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." (Matthew 6:14-15). The parable of the Unforgiving Servant spells it out in Matthew 18:21-35.
  6. I don't think so... When my kids were little, they'd color us pictures and we'd tell them the pictures were good and tape them on the refrigerator. The truth, the pictures were horrible, but for the sake of their self-esteem and to acknowledge their effort, we told a white lie. Likewise, If a wife thinks she looks good in some new cloths and proudly ask; "How do I look in this outfit?", we all know there is just one correct answer to that question, the truth be damned. I guess that sometimes its just easier to believe a lie. As Jack Nicholson said; "You can't handle the truth". Jesus said, "I am the Truth", and they crucified him.. Perhaps we don't value honesty in every situation? The truth is not always convenient and can interfere with how we want to perceive things.. I doubt that an honest politician could ever get elected.. We often choose to believe what we want to hear, true or not. Human emotions sometimes over-ride logic, we hope something is true even when we know deep down that it isn't.. Kind of like someone telling you, "Buy a lottery ticket and become a multi-millionaire", then we blow our money on unrealistic hope. We've all been gullible since day one; "The serpent said to the woman, "You surely will not die!" We all want the truth, but often find a lie more preferable.
  7. I think there's a big difference between a white lie and one that's detrimental to others. A white lie, fib, or exaggeration is usually harmless, but a lie to intentionally mislead or con someone else is never okay. I often exaggerate to make a point, or I'll say something that's not true to spare someone's feelings. A bad lie is to deliberately mislead someone to get what you want, like when a car salesman tells you a car runs great when he knows it has problems, or a politician says he's for repealing and replacing Obama Care and then votes against doing so.
  8. The Hebrew realm of the dead is Sheol. The NT Greek equivalent to Sheol is Hades. Its where all souls go after death. My understanding is that Sheol/Hades is separated by a great gulf or chasm (Luke 16:26). On one side is Gehenna, the Greek word for hell, and the other side is paradise. So hell is not a place of eternal death that people often confuse with the Lake of Fire. Hell is simply the side of Sheol where souls/spirits are imprisoned until judgement. Hell is for the unrighteous, a precursor to the Lake of Fire, while the righteous in Christ are kept in paradise, a forerunner to heaven.
  9. debt not sin

    Imo, yes, sins are debts, meaning shortcomings in the service to God. While debt and sin are different words, debts used figuratively can refer to sin. In fact where Matthew 6:12 uses "And forgive us our debts" , Luke 11:4 says; "And forgive us our sins".
  10. debt not sin

    Imo, a bunch of bologna... Debt has a double meaning, debt as used in the Lords Prayer has nothing to do with financial indebtedness, but is related to transgressions against God. Being guilty of sin is a debt. Jesus didn't die for monetary debt, but paid the price for our sins, which are moral and spiritual transgressions against the law, and its these sinful debts that are wiped clean. This is completely different from a Jubilee, where monetary debts are erased.
  11. In the pending Worst Case Scenario

    I have no fear because I live with faith... And I've already invested in ammo
  12. Blame, Tame, or All The Same Games

    It depends I guess... If I made the choice to murder someone, your saying that the choice was wrong.. I agree, but I still think "the self that made the choice is to blame". A choice is just an action or result that emanates from a person. That's why we lock people up for making bad choices. If you chose to give money to a charity that helped others in need, the choice was beneficial, but the credit should go to you because it was your decision, your money, and your sacrifice.
  13. Blame, Tame, or All The Same Games

    The self that made the choice is to blame..
  14. Using psychology in ministry

    All true.. I guess you don't need to be knee deep in the hog pen to know you'll get muddy. An outside observer can be more objective because they are emotionally detached from a situation. But for serious mental problems, finding a professional to analyze a problem and provide therapy would be more prudent than consulting your priest. For some battered women, a minister will only green light a divorce on the grounds of adultery. So imo, consulting someone who's decisions are influenced by a set of beliefs, is not always beneficial, especially to a woman who's getting the crap beat out of her everyday. Long ago, I trusted a financial adviser who convinced me that it would be more prudent for me to trust him with my investments because I was emotionally attached to my money and prone to panic, while he could be much more objective, saw the big picture, and would keep me in solid investments that would pay-off big.. He then commenced to lose $300k of my hard earned money, without suffering any emotional issues. I've never entrusted another "professional" since then .. Now, I'm content to make my own investments, and am proud to say that I've had no trouble losing money on my own
  15. Using psychology in ministry

    Sometimes, there's not much of a difference .. On the Christian Chat forum, everyone's advise to someone else who is having marital problems or anything else, is to "Talk to your Pastor". If a woman is being abused, talk to your Minister, if your husband is watching porn, talk to your Reverend, if your struggling with an addiction, talk to your Preacher, and if your sexually abusing children, talk to a Priest .. Go figure? I don't have a problem with religious counseling for some superficial matters, but serious emotional or psychological disorders should be handled by a professional. Can't find a job, go to an employment agency, feeling sick, see a doctor, need money, talk to a banker, mentally confused, see a shrink, not a priest.. It always amazes me that couples ask a priest about marital issues, when a priest would likely be the last one to know anything about it.