Jonathan H. B. Lobl

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About Jonathan H. B. Lobl

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  • Birthday 03/13/1953

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    New York City (Jackson Hts. in Queens)

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    Reiki, Therapeutic Touch, Qi Gong, Meditation,
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    I'm on the right side of the grass.
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    Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all your self. ---------- Live forever, or die trying.
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    Apathetic Agnostic and Atheist

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  1. Which still leaves the question. What is the intent behind the original? It's much worse than translating modern Hebrew into modern English. This is ancient Hebrew -- and the cultural gap is staggering. To me, it looks like Astrology. For one thing, it presumes sentience on the part of the Sun and Moon. This is consistent, with the Biblical calling the stars, the Host of Heaven. In other words, God's army or angels.
  2. I have been watching the You Tube videos on physics and cosmology. In particular, Neil DeGrase Tyson -- of the Hayden Planetarium. It is only the space between galaxies that is expanding. The gravitational forces within the galaxies are strong enough to counter this force -- generally called, dark energy. If this were not the case, galaxies would lose cohesion and the stars would fly off. If all space were expanding in our solar system -- the orbits of all the planets would be expanding. We would be getting more and more distance between ourselves and the Sun and we would all be dead from the cold. If all space everywhere were expanding -- molecules would fly apart. There would be no matter -- anywhere.
  3. That's the problem, isn't it? Nobody knows. Buddha was never anything more than a man. An important man, because he had good spiritual insights -- but only a man. It is small wonder, that his words were damaged, in the transmission. It seems unlikely, that Buddha intended to create a new religion. Certainly, not a new class of professional monk. I think that he was trying to reform the Hinduism of his time. The words of Jesus, supposedly, had God's backing. His message met the same distorted fate as Buddha's. Maybe worse. I can say that with confidence, because there are about 40,000 different flavors of Christianity. The New Testament itself, records some of the disagreements about circumcision and dietary observance. Without Paul's intervention, there would have been no mission to the gentiles. The Jesus movement would have remained a Jewish movement -- and it would have been absorbed back into Judaism -- much as Buddha has been claimed by Hinduism -- as an avatar of Vishnu, the Preserver. In the end, it comes down to faith. Some have it. Some don't. I need evidence.
  4. My sense of things, is that if there was a historic Jesus -- behind all the stories and mythology -- he was a reformer. By that I mean that he was interested in reforming the Judaism of his day. In particular, there is the story of a gentile woman, who wanted a healing from Jesus. He called her a dog, because she wasn't Jewish. Also, it was Paul, who took the Jesus movement to the gentiles. There is nothing in the Gospels to suggest that Jesus wanted a gentile following. The legendary conflict between Peter and Paul suggests that Peter wanted no part of a gentile mission. There is the Great Commission, where the risen Christ commands his followers, to spread the Good News. I think this puts us back into mythology and pious fraud. What we now think of as Christianity, was birthed, not by Jesus, but by Paul. A man who first met Jesus, on the road to Damascus. To my understanding, more mythology and pious fraud. The story becomes more ludicrous, when Paul lectures the Jews on the real Jesus. The man he never met. Back to your point. Would Jesus recognize anything, about Christianity, in any of it's forms? I truly doubt that.
  5. No need. Look at the monk's in Burma, inciting violence, in direct contradiction to Dharma. The world is a strange place and getting weirder.
  6. The King James Version speaks of ruling the day and ruling the night. That sounds like Astrology -- to me. The greater light is the Sun. The lesser light is the Moon. That makes the Sun and Moon -- rulers. Genesis 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also. In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations Genesis 1:18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good. In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  7. There are Buddhists who will tell us, that Buddhism is a practice -- suitable for followers of all religions. In Indonesia, which has religious freedom -- -- there is a government list of legal religions. Buddhism is one of the options. Do you want consistency?
  8. I seriously doubt that this is what Buddha intended. I also doubt that Buddha intended a professional monk class. Well, once you have professional clergy -- and seminaries -- the rest follows. What are they teaching the lay people? The best karma of all, flows from feeding the monks and supporting the temples.
  9. We could make similar observations about the Gospels -- which translate as Good News. The propaganda of it's time. The Good News must be true. See? Someone reported these stories as true. Even though much of the content, is about the people who insisted it was a lie. Even though parts of it are ludicrous.
  10. I'm not upset. Calling bullcrap, on blatant Christian propaganda, is tedious and boring. If Christians cared more, about the sin of bearing false witness, I wouldn't have to. Don't worry. I'm used to it.
  11. Aside from the newspaper article, which Dan quotes -- all the other sites listed are Christian propaganda sites. Much like the propagandists who wrote the Bible -- I find their deep concern for objective truth, to be lacking. That's me being nice.