Jonathan H. B. Lobl

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About Jonathan H. B. Lobl

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  • Birthday 03/13/1953

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    New York City (Jackson Hts. in Queens)

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    Reiki, Therapeutic Touch, Qi Gong, Meditation,
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    I'm on the right side of the grass.
  • Your Motto
    Learn from the mistakes of others. You won't live long enough to make them all your self. ---------- Live forever, or die trying.
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    Apathetic Agnostic and Atheist

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  1. That's a problem. We can't tell the difference between faith and stupidity. You were being sarcastic? I couldn't tell. I thought you were making a point.
  2. Manslaughter? Maybe cover up. Or conspiracy. I suppose it depends on the D.A. Manslaughter would apply to abortion. Not miscarriage.
  3. Modern Evangelicals and Satan. Look who is advising President Trump. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/progressivesecularhumanist/2020/01/trump-spiritual-adviser-paula-white-orders-end-to-satanic-pregnancies/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Imagine+No+Religion&utm_content=44
  4. I read it. It's an interesting, thoughtful piece. Thank you. I'm going to have to think about this.
  5. Scientific facts don't conflict with the bible. You simply prefer theories to the bible. Proper interpretation is not an attempt to harmonize anything, but rather an effort to properly understand what's written. If I interpreted the bible like you do, I wouldn't believe it either. Faith comes from hearing and understanding (Romans 10:17). In Job, Satan is God's servant. Satan does nothing without God's permission -- then Satan follows God's instructions -- Including God's limits. Satan is not God's enemy. Satan is God's District Attorney. God is the judge, who issues the orders and is obeyed by Satan. This is what I find in the Jewish Scriptures. I will heed the New Testament -- when you heed the Koran. Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them. In Context | Full Chapter | Other Translations
  6. "If I'm not mistaken, you don't believe Noah's flood was world-wide either?" The Bible is mythology. It is not a source of truth and I do not take a lot of it seriously, on any level. This is not about my personal belief. I read the Bible. I know what the Bible said about the Flood story. The bulk of the Christian world, agrees with my understanding of that story. "You've stated that from a scientific perspective, it wouldn't have been possible." From a scientific perspective, the Flood story is impossible. When science conflicts with the Bible, I go with science. You obviously go with the Bible. Attempting to harmonize them, by this silly cheery picking, is futile. You might like to look up Ken Ham, and Answers in Genesis. That is mainstream Christian Evangelical thought. You seem confused about my belief in the Bible. This is my favorite quote on the subject. "The Bible is equal parts History, Science and Pizza."
  7. The Devil? In Judaism? You are misinformed. The accuser -- Ha Satan -- shows up in Job. He is not the Christian Devil.
  8. Dan acts like his own denomination. The obvious example, being this weird doctrine of his, about Noah's flood. That it was a local event, instead of the World wide flood taught by the rest of Christianity. The Bible is literal, except where it isn't. Dan knows which is which.
  9. Now, a word from Trump's Godly supporters. I can be even handed https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/carl-gallups-those-who-hate-trump-have-a-demonic-spirit-in-them/