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The best one has always worked!!

Thanks Ed!!

So, it's all about you, and not about the ficticious 'other?' I see. So, are you the 'other?'

sicko freak!!

I'm curious as to why 'other' is an option? There is no 'other.' The IPB folks must be among those wonderfully progressive folks who are confused by definitions, standards and nature!!!

Good, because affirmative action is not only very discriminatory, but it is also bad business and governance. Meritocracy is the only fair way to treat people....but libs don't like it because it means someone has to be on the bottom, and that is "unfair."

The fact that people "find a lawyer immediately and sue" is a horrible testiment to our hyper-sensitive society, and that fact that we even have 'protected classes' of people is disgusting to me........but of course, my HR Director will never hear me make such utterances. All people However... ....Rest assured, that if you feel threatened in the workplace because you are an atheist, you would most certainly have recourse for harrassment despite atheism not being a legally protected class. You have every right to work in a respectful, harrassment-free workplace regardless.....it's the law. But more to the point: The fact that atheism isn't a "protected class" does not in ANY way equate to society's intolerance. We should NOT add every little group in the world to some 'protected class,' we should instead eliminate 'protected classes' altogether and treat all people the same. In a thread about getting/having/seeking tolerance, you precisely illustrate intolerance in your bigoted and sweeping judgement of Christians. It undermines your position, and so you may wish to re-think it and paint with a much, much smaller brush.

I don't agree with the premise. Almost everything in our society is geared toward secularism.....government, media, edukation, the economy, technology, etc.... Just because some folks cannot relate to non-believers doesn't mean they are not getting their fair share of tolerance. Quite on the contrary.

Great post, SWC. It saddens (but does not surprise) me, however, that there are no other acknowledgements on this site for Memorial Day. Perhaps an oversight. Perhaps everyone else was too busy to post this holiday weekend whilst laying bar-b-q stained wreaths and flags. Or, perhaps, more and more people have forgetten and take for granted the importance of the sacrafices of so many Americans who have brought or ensured freedom around the world. Or, perhaps, for people who can no longer justify it, or have been taught not to show a hint of it, dare not express patriotism for fear of being labeled. In memory.....

You forgot my darling mother , and one of my employees named Jeffrey who we affectionately refer to as the Trailer Monkey.

That has often been my pet name for him when he would post some of his "special" thoughts. Seriously.......Congratulations, Phred!! Saint Phred. Now that has a nice ring to it.

Exactamundo. My entire office is a shrine! Thankfully, Aaron Brother's has something like a "buy one, get the next for two cents" deals on frames every January and August.

About five or six years ago I bought the whole kit and kaboodle: the ordination, the doctorate (two of them, right?), the books and tapes on how to conduct various ceremonies, blank certificates, the 'clergy parking pass,' the business cards, etc... With the exception of a single copy of the business card, the whole lot remains in a box in my garage. Since the purchase, I have mentioned to maybe a dozen people that I am legally ordained in all 50 states, etc.. I've never had an occasion to exercise the ordination, but I suppose if someone wanted me to marry or baptize them, I would. I've been asked why I don't frame the 'degrees' and place them in a position of honor on one of my I Love Me Walls. Truth is, there isn't any room.

Man, I think I posted to this thread years ago. Currently, I am reading "The 10 Biggest Lies About America" by Michael Medved.

I'm not religious in any way, but I always feel a heavy reverence when I hear Amazing Grace on bagpipes. Also, whenever I hear a traditional rendering of our National Anthem I get goose bumps. Taking the issue a few layers downward, whenever I hear Children of the Sea I get a certain tingling of amazement, but for entirely different reasons.

Quitter......

The entire American Judeo-Christian culture has been under assault by not-so-well disguised secular religious bigotry for about 40 years now. While the vast majority of American's still call themselves "Christian," more and more the parts of the culture that reflect those historical beliefs are having a war being waged against it, and are laregly disappearing from the politically correct mainstream. Happy Winter Solstice everyone.

Proudly admitting to be a pervert (as in the title of this thread), and in essence condeming most of the rest of the human race, are positions that do not lend themselves to having been born from the rational ability to judge, and perhaps exposes a rather predictable defence mechanism of lying to, or at least deluding yourself.

Humans have the natural ability to discern. To discern is to judge. To not judge is to deny natural ability, which is just as much the antithesis of basic survival instincts as adults wearing diapers.

You must not have been paying much attention to recent American politics and culture. There are some, some of whom assume the poster may possibly have endorsed, who think that wounded warriors have actually gotten what they deserve. Smearing or belittling the issue with comments such as "fashion statements" is really what deserves the statement. Must you really go there? Stay happy and healthy,

Most any modern biography of FDR. You may have to overlook poltical prejudices, but if you consider disabling war wounds as a disability, as I do, then there are a great many biographies of well-known veterans that are very positive and inspiring. One of the things I always find VERY inspiring are the TV shows that document triathelons or other similar physical/sporting events because there are always amazing stories of participants who have disabilities and yet persevere to overcome them to actually complete these events. I actually stand and cheer for them in my living room, and have often been so inspired as to shed a tear of awe!! Hope that helps, Mike

OK But if the truth as you see it turns out to be wrong, because of the introduction of facts, it cannot remain the truth, right? Therefore the original truth must not have been the truth, but only opinion. Who knows. It's just a fun exercise....

That is a good point. Let's have an exercise. In your example, saying you are a good person is a subjective opinion. If we were to first agree upon a scale, however, to measure and determine if you really are a good person, regardless of opinion, then we'd come to an objective truth..... and, no doubt, a truth that finds that you are, in fact, a good person!

Sorry to ruin your reputation, but I agree with you. The truth ultimately does not change with the degree of ignorance of the observer. Only perception of the truth changes with the degree of ignorance of the observer.

What defines a person as old? Age And what defines a person as wise? Wisdom Is it likely a person age 20 - 25 would be widely viewed as wise? Generally no. On rare occasions, yes.