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Does anyone know how we can set up a petition to get the Unliversal Life Church recognised/Established in the United Kingdom? I've searched on the UK Parliments hansard website and I've found this, and this is the ONLY mention of the ULC anywhere within the Hansard website.

The Places of Worship Registration Act 1855 (the Act) provides for places of meeting for religious worship, excluding those belonging to the Established Church, to be certified to the Registrar General. A number of tests are applied by the Registrar General when a place of meeting for religious worship is certified to him. This includes the application of the judgment by the Court of Appeal in the Segerdal case in 1970. The main finding in the judgment is that the words 'place of meeting for religious worship' in the Act connote a place of which the principal use is for people to come together as a congregation to worship God or do reverence to a deity. A further test is whether the principal use of the building is for worship or for other matters, such as a private home or social club.

Once the Registrar General is satisfied that the place of worship certified to him is capable of recognition, he adds it to the register of such places which, under the Act, he has a duty to maintain.

The duty placed on the Registrar General does not extend to maintaining and retaining records of places or organisations that are not capable of recognition as places of worship under the Act, and the records held in this respect by the Registrar General are incomplete. However, the records that the Registrar General does hold confirm that since 1979, the following organisations have made unsuccessful applications for buildings certified as places of worship to be added to the register:

Universal Life Church

Miracle Revival Assembly

Calvary Full Gospel Church

Christians not otherwise designated

Roman Catholics

The Methodist Church

Who object to be designated by any distinctive Religious Appellation

Order of Christ Spirit

Christian Spiritualist

Jehovah's Witnesses

Centre for Christ

Pentecostal Assemblies of God

Baptists

Mount Zion Holiness Assembly

Church of Christ

Christian Fellowship in Huddersfield

Interdenomination

Christians Nazarenes Methodist and Pentecostal

First Church of Christ, Scientist

Wentworth Road Christian Fellowship

Assemblies of God

Llanelli Baptist

Great Conrad Free Church

Calvary Church of God

Church of God

Good News Church Macclesfield

The Spiritualist Sanctuary

German Speaking Evangelical Lutheran Congregation

The Order of Women Freemasons

Muslims

Gur Sangat

Orthodox Christians

Cramlington Spiritualist Church

Frankley Methodist /Anglican Church

Fellowship of Churches of Christ

God's Church of Peace

Penzance Christian Fellowship

Nailsea Christian Fellowship

Pentwyn Christian Fellowship

Officers and Members of Emmanuel Pentecostal Faith Church of God

Church of Christ of Bethlehem

Weybridge United Reformed Church

Horringer Court Christian Fellowship

Christchurch Abbeydale

Brotherhood Movement

Caribbean House Chaplaincy

Greater World Christian Spiritualist Association

The Independent African Caribbean Church of Christ of Nazareth

The Pentecostal Evangelistic Assembly

Letchworth Lodge of the Theosophical Society in England

The Holiness Church of God Inc.

The Othona Community

Trinity Church of Christ

The New Benedictine Order

The Spiritualists National Union Redwoods

Redditch Christian Fellowship

The British Sailor's Society

Emmanuel Christian Fellowship

Highfield Free Church

Good News Church

Hammarens Ordens Sallskap-The Order of the Hammer

Apostolic Church of God Seventh Day

Mechanics

Korean Presbyterian Church

Coptic Orthodox Church

United Reformed Church

The Ashford Christian Spiritualist Church

Amazing Grace and Friends

Tavistock Community Church

Apostolics

Trinity Church of Christ

Church of England and United Reformed Church

Confucians (Buddhists, Goddess of Mercy)

Apostolic Church International (in UK)

Members of the Correllian Nativist Church International

Buddhists (New Kadampa Tradition)

Cantheist

Freedom Family Church

Redeemed Christian Church of God

C.J's City

St. Andrews Church of God

Wiccan

Life Sanctuary Church

Kriya Yoga Ashram

Jesus Christ The Great Salvation Fellowship

Mount Sion Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ

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Does anyone know how we can set up a petition to get the Unliversal Life Church recognised/Established in the United Kingdom?

We? As in the ULC in Modesto, California? No, there is no interest in it. However, YOU as a minister of the ULC can now go and acquire a building and start regular services in the UK, and from that may petition for recognition. Modesto is likely not going to provide much other than information. Once you establish your church your ordination is still by the ULC but your church in the UK is on its own, legally, and must do everything yourself.

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Thanks for the reply, sorry I meant WE as in the UK members, what can we do to get the ULC recognised within the UK and get the same freedom as the ULC gets in America. The question is really aimed at everyone living within the United Kingdom

thanks

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Thanks for the reply, sorry I meant WE as in the UK members, what can we do to get the ULC recognised within the UK and get the same freedom as the ULC gets in America. The question is really aimed at everyone living within the United Kingdom

thanks

Very well...the answer is still the same. Acquire a building and hold regular services. Petition the government for recognition.

It won't happen overnight.

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Does anyone know how we can set up a petition to get the Unliversal Life Church recognised/Established in the United Kingdom? I've searched on the UK Parliments hansard website and I've found this, and this is the ONLY mention of the ULC anywhere within the Hansard website.

The Places of Worship Registration Act 1855 (the Act) provides for places of meeting for religious worship, excluding those belonging to the Established Church, to be certified to the Registrar General. A number of tests are applied by the Registrar General when a place of meeting for religious worship is certified to him. This includes the application of the judgment by the Court of Appeal in the Segerdal case in 1970. The main finding in the judgment is that the words 'place of meeting for religious worship' in the Act connote a place of which the principal use is for people to come together as a congregation to worship God or do reverence to a deity. A further test is whether the principal use of the building is for worship or for other matters, such as a private home or social club.

Once the Registrar General is satisfied that the place of worship certified to him is capable of recognition, he adds it to the register of such places which, under the Act, he has a duty to maintain.

The duty placed on the Registrar General does not extend to maintaining and retaining records of places or organisations that are not capable of recognition as places of worship under the Act, and the records held in this respect by the Registrar General are incomplete. However, the records that the Registrar General does hold confirm that since 1979, the following organisations have made unsuccessful applications for buildings certified as places of worship to be added to the register:

Universal Life Church

Miracle Revival Assembly

Calvary Full Gospel Church

Christians not otherwise designated

Roman Catholics

The Methodist Church

Who object to be designated by any distinctive Religious Appellation

Order of Christ Spirit

Christian Spiritualist

Jehovah's Witnesses

Centre for Christ

Pentecostal Assemblies of God

Baptists

Mount Zion Holiness Assembly

Church of Christ

Christian Fellowship in Huddersfield

Interdenomination

Christians Nazarenes Methodist and Pentecostal

First Church of Christ, Scientist

Wentworth Road Christian Fellowship

Assemblies of God

Llanelli Baptist

Great Conrad Free Church

Calvary Church of God

Church of God

Good News Church Macclesfield

The Spiritualist Sanctuary

German Speaking Evangelical Lutheran Congregation

The Order of Women Freemasons

Muslims

Gur Sangat

Orthodox Christians

Cramlington Spiritualist Church

Frankley Methodist /Anglican Church

Fellowship of Churches of Christ

God's Church of Peace

Penzance Christian Fellowship

Nailsea Christian Fellowship

Pentwyn Christian Fellowship

Officers and Members of Emmanuel Pentecostal Faith Church of God

Church of Christ of Bethlehem

Weybridge United Reformed Church

Horringer Court Christian Fellowship

Christchurch Abbeydale

Brotherhood Movement

Caribbean House Chaplaincy

Greater World Christian Spiritualist Association

The Independent African Caribbean Church of Christ of Nazareth

The Pentecostal Evangelistic Assembly

Letchworth Lodge of the Theosophical Society in England

The Holiness Church of God Inc.

The Othona Community

Trinity Church of Christ

The New Benedictine Order

The Spiritualists National Union Redwoods

Redditch Christian Fellowship

The British Sailor's Society

Emmanuel Christian Fellowship

Highfield Free Church

Good News Church

Hammarens Ordens Sallskap-The Order of the Hammer

Apostolic Church of God Seventh Day

Mechanics

Korean Presbyterian Church

Coptic Orthodox Church

United Reformed Church

The Ashford Christian Spiritualist Church

Amazing Grace and Friends

Tavistock Community Church

Apostolics

Trinity Church of Christ

Church of England and United Reformed Church

Confucians (Buddhists, Goddess of Mercy)

Apostolic Church International (in UK)

Members of the Correllian Nativist Church International

Buddhists (New Kadampa Tradition)

Cantheist

Freedom Family Church

Redeemed Christian Church of God

C.J's City

St. Andrews Church of God

Wiccan

Life Sanctuary Church

Kriya Yoga Ashram

Jesus Christ The Great Salvation Fellowship

Mount Sion Apostolic Church of Jesus Christ

Now, off the main topic, THAT is one impressive list ! All these groups have been unable to even get their buildings recognized as religious meeting sites? !? Wow ! Some of these groups are older than the UK and many are hundreds of years old, although I suppose a few of them are rather new-sounding or suspicious-sounding (Women Freemasons?!? :(Uhm, it is a FRATERNITY, as in BROTHER-hood. How the frak are women Brothers?:quest: The British Sailors Society as a religious group?!?:wacko:) .

All I can say is that the ULC in the UK is in pretty good company if all these other groups are on the same list. Just saying.

Good luck with your quest for recognition by the UK authorities. :inno:

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A possibility:

A group of ULC Ministers refer to themselves as "Missionaries" Baptise and/or ordain some in a sufficient number to constitute a "Congregation." Find a building or premises suitable for a church, whatever the requirements may be, make certain the real estate person(s) in charge is agreeable, and make your application on the basis that it is a "Church Planting." I'm not certain of all of the legal niceties involved, but I am aware that this seems to work for Mormons and several Asian churches.

...Segerdal case in 1970. The main finding in the judgment is that the words 'place of meeting for religious worship' in the Act connote a place of which the principal use is for people to come together as a congregation to worship God or do reverence to a deity. A further test is whether the principal use of the building is for worship or for other matters, such as a private home or social club.

If one of the congregation, an ordained minister of course, were to place some chairs and a pulpit in his garage, which would not otherwise be used because said person does not own an auto, would this qualify under the above ruling?

Blessings. :thumbu:

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Hello Right_Rev_Ian,

I think we need to get all the Ordained Ministers in the UK together on one forum and see if we can arrange a multi-faith meeting place that we can register as a place of worship

 

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As I read this, it is concerned with buildings, and their usage. It is nothing to do with the recognition of the faith.

 

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9 hours ago, Rev_Huang said:

Hello Right_Rev_Ian,

I think we need to get all the Ordained Ministers in the UK together on one forum and see if we can arrange a multi-faith meeting place that we can register as a place of worship

 

You may be waiting quite awhile for a reply. It's now more than 8 years since the poster last signed on to the forum.

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13 hours ago, RabbiO said:

You may be waiting quite awhile for a reply. It's now more than 8 years since the poster last signed on to the forum.

44 minutes ago, Rev_Huang said:

Hello RabbiO,

I am just hoping that they are still around.

I have made a ULC in UK group so we can all get together.

 

I don't want to be an @$$, but I have to ask: What is that hope based on?

 

As RabbiO already said; they have not been around for over 8 years...

 

 

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On Wednesday, June 13, 2018 at 10:40 AM, Rev_Huang said:

Hello RabbiO,

I am just hoping that they are still around.

I have made a ULC in UK group so we can all get together.

I am Interested In getting In touch regarding ULC In England I have sent you a PM

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there is a ulc uk site.problem was,the christians didn't want the pagans,among others,to be part of it.it's still up and running.

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