Brother Michael Sky

impunity.... i LOVE that word.... however, uh,.... it is such a strong word.....lol makes me really curious what " moving forward " means....

Service to others.... you have my thanks, and a big high five...... welcome aboard....

eat a little pepper - cayenne or red - to keep your circulation goin good.... a little valerian when you are sitting in the evening won't hurt... relax you and keep you from getting up every ten seconds...

makes me wonder, once again, about the similiarities between people's energy usage... As a Reiki healer, I look forward to sessions when I am not feeling at my best.... I receive as much ( or more ) healing as the person I am working on.... In the beginning of my practice I noticed changes in my performance when sick ( and exhaustion afterwards ) but realized it was because I was trying to " give " the energy instead of being a conduit for the universal energies... speaking of which - I'll be sending much love your way !!

It's not denial of the tenets.... being wishy-washy in belief could describe those who have stopped seeking as well, couldn't it Dan? We are supposed to meet the Lord halfway, right? There are layers to any Spiritual Text... we honestly have the same foundation for the beliefs we hold ( in this instance, for this example... ) I see the facts of these events as having a slightly different meaning.... with the same " basic " importance... I also feel I have personal experience, witnessed by my very own senses, which ignite a fire under my belief which never was possible when i was reading letters off a page, and trying to find gidance there... I believe my faith to be rather heated....

Thank you pete. I was asking a Jew about their view on the fact that Messianic Jews exist... I wanted to know ( and still do.. )the personal feelings on the matter from a perspective of a more orthodox jew.. There is a significant ( i was led to believe...) Messianic Jew community in Israel itself, I was curious to know what a " true " jew thought of this.... the differences seem insurmountable from an outside prospective yet those who profess these beliefs have a line of reasoning for it.... I believe my verbal clumsiness was the cause of my being ignored, however ..... at least the question wasn't loudly asked in my southern twang.... ... it WAS easy to ignore..... how are we to know when we are being a total dweeb with a question, unless a polite " c'mon man, be quiet " is forthcoming...

can't believe i didnt get a comment on that one... I built it around three separate thoughts....

I had questions along these lines... but i never got beyond my initial questioning.... no answer was forthcoming... lets see if this flushes out a helpful fellow....

I personally have had OBE experiences with fire - go figure, huh Dan? - In each one Fire has been a PURIFYING agent ( not in the least way associated with pain or suffering....) which is manifested in different ways for different reasons, but universally ( In my experience, now...) as a purifying agent.... to clear the dross which adheres even though you have progressed beyond it... to clear UNWARRENTED negativity... I have also had experiences with CHRISTIANS who die consumed by guilt and find their HELL when they pass.... of their own choice and by their own creation, creating a circumstance where others must assist and attempt to get through to these poor souls who are lost IN THEIR OWN MISERY... as the Angels look on with concern and LOVE, giving an enormous amount of energy to the cause.... but they must first give up their FEAR of their Father.... ironic, no? Am I aware that there are beings out there whose names will be erased from the Book of Life? ( for those who do not know - this is referring to what is called the Akashic Record ) Yes, they are out there.... and they will be there until the end of the Yuga.... and then they will be erased and will have never been.... until then they do the Lord's work... as everything in the Lord's creation must - by very nature... But there is only a burning pit in the Christian claimed portion of the afterlife....

I'll step in front of this freight train..... I'll be your huckleberry... No I DO NOT believe that the man had to die to bring his message.... No, neither do I believe that his death did anything useful for us at all... how much more might we have learned from a live messenger over the course of a long life? here's where I start hearing the train's whistles..... Can you think of one group of people who have suffered atrocity repeatedly over the past couple thousand years? while still survivng to suffer? Could it have something to do with racial or group Karma? I'm just saying..... an argument COULD be made..... not that I am making it.... and because I believe in self-judgement I know that the right man is on the job... I am completely up to date with my transgressions..... and for the rest, my friend Dan... we won't start arguing text.... I definitely see things differently there... I believe you are hanging on the words written by a monk in a cave, who never met the man himself.... who quite possibly was following orders at javalin point.... maybe even at the orders of the prostitute Theodora or her nasty, nasty husband Constantine...

( IMO )Before the Christ Spirit was Bestowed upon the planet it was in a sort of limbo from the previous betrayal... The Bestowal of the Christ Spirit once again " jumpstarted " the continuing evolution of man - physically and spiritually.. The MAN... Immanuel... was the first of the Earthbound Spirits to experience this " jumpstart "... and he was able to allow witnesses.... because he came as a Pure spirit and left the same way - his roadmap to success for each of us... here I mostly agree wth you.... there have been many, many enlightened souls who have left the place better than it was when they came, however the Christ " occupation " is a singular event in the development of man ( which follows on the heels of another singular event - the betrayal...) I see those fireflies as frequently as I am able, my friend.... do I smell a new profile name for Fawzo?... bit long but.....

thats good stuff Pete... thanks !

actually i was hoping that the answer to the question could bump loose peoples thoughts on the matter.. there seems to be something that hasn't been said here... as for me... I have a label collection... i use 'em for trivets... ima go listen to that fireflies song again.....

I like the words to this... I believe the writer is into OBE's

I would say that everyone on the planet since the Bestowal of the Christ Spirit was a Christian effectively.... Since it WAS a bestowal to all who take bodies from that point on... I don't believe Jesus had to die for our sins.... I don't believe in a virgin birth... and I most importantly do not believe in any type of imposed Hell whatsoever.... or judgement other than self-imposed... am I still a liberal Christian? I do believe that Jesus played a very crucial role in the " salvation " of my soul ( I would call it " development " ) and I do recognize the bestowal of the Christ Spirit to be inextricably linked with Jesus's last incarnation.... ( y'all know I'm using that name for clarity ) so am i a liberal christian?

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sigh.... Floyd

now, see... this is where I get off the fundamental bus.... " It is taking the wrong approach altogether because it requires natural analysis of a supernatural document. " bull- oney..... when as a child I asked the pentacostal minister what had him so upset ( after a sunday school class ) and described his energy to him - he actually shouted Satan out of me...... or so he said as i was rubbing my ears.... There are those among us who could answer many questions.... But a certain text loudly disclaims any such knowledge... I've been following along this thread, and I have gone through a lot of emotions along the way... I don't want to point at anything else specifically, but I do want to say... Threads like this one are very revealing, and beneficial... The range and fluctuations of belief displayed are interesting to say the least... I have been very outspoken against inerrancy, but I probably will be much less so... I'm beginning to have a new understanding on this subject... I have said before, I believe each of us is destined for the same ultimate destination. To get there however, we will each travel an independant path. This, IMO, leads for a wide range of " exactly right " for all the participants in the drama. Meaning we may all fully believe different things - and those things may BE exactly right for us - but this, again IMO, Is exactly the right formula for the experiences we crave to come about. This IS the purpose. For those star trek fans out there - we are in an infinite holodeck, creating our Truth as we go.. to bring it home as a gift to ourselves... to fulfill our purpose. It is our differences which make the world go round. The more homogenous we become - the closer we get to Godhead. whatever that means on the next octave... we'll understand when we get there... lol Thanks to CoolHand for his rock steady devotion - you have the strong energy of one who has found a truth.. The Rev. Rainbow for his wisdom... Fawzo for that stick he stirs the pot with.... Pete for that good chin... and his piercing desire to KNOW... and all the rest who have contributed.... Y'all are great....

a chocolate orange. you know those ones you whack on the table and it breaks into segments? yeah, thats what i want....

A Momentary Grace by Brother Michael ------------------ Though I feel those Passions stirring, whispering from the dark, inferring - that since I know this soul so well, I must insist to desist somehow. My Heart is ever Weary,while my eyes have gone all bleary, and I Long for just one somewhat subtle Touch. A familiar, brief, but lingering touch, that calms the soul who's seen too much, and suffers for the suffering It once bore. That touch which draws the attention to The Moment - not the Moment's due. The slick and slithering Calm before the Storm. That Moment when the walls could fall, "I see the wolves, and damn them all" That Moment which is Harbinger of Change. Yes, I feel those Passions stirring, whispering from the dark - inferring And i'm SO aware that in a Moment's Choice is Fate. Fate would have me travelling on, an endless string of Dusk til Dawn, Living life with Blindness as my guide. I must be the Pilot here, for There's noone else who "gets" my weird, There's noone else who can lead me To my Home. Because I feel those Passions stirring, I'm aware of Live's recurring, And I understand the WHY Behind my HOW. Yet I long for another Touch within That Moment..... this one's a bit greasy folks.... hope you like it...

that was almost poetry.... lol and it's true... Light and Love to Chester...

apparently they've been out Turnig Witches To Christ..... must be a tiresome, thankless job....