mark 45 Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 been a long time von,good to see you again. do the questions/answers really mean anything?i guess it depends on who's asking/answering.maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 4 hours ago, VonNoble said: How and why or even why not perhaps not required to DO ....whatever it is we do in life. They are ultimately not what drives us. Do the questions (and/or answers) really matter? Perhaps we most often act without understanding in our daily existence. (if yes - it explains a great deal) We want is often the impetus. We frequently respond beyond or in spite of reason. Maybe. Sounds fairly accurate. I think We don't want is more often the impetus, though. Fear and loathing, you know? The primal stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan H. B. Lobl Posted August 25, 2017 Report Share Posted August 25, 2017 9 hours ago, VonNoble said: How and why or even why not perhaps not required to DO ....whatever it is we do in life. They are ultimately not what drives us. Do the questions (and/or answers) really matter? Perhaps we most often act without understanding in our daily existence. (if yes - it explains a great deal) We want is often the impetus. We frequently respond beyond or in spite of reason. Maybe. von I don't want to get overly cosmic, so I will speak only for myself. Here I am. I have a shortage of reliable information. The people who claim to know, don't know any more than I do. Frequently, they know less. So, here I am. I do the best I can with what I have. Then I move on. Mistakes and all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonNoble Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 Jonathan HB Lobl, All any of us can do is speak for our own self. Thank you for your posting. It seems to me you DO have all the answers you need. You do your best. What more can any of us do? You accept that mistakes will happen - for all of us - as that is the nature of our existence. We are forever learning. We accept that learning curve is part of life and growth and we let the missteps go and move on. You can't get to second base with your foot firmly planted on first base. Seems to me you have a winning formula for dealing with questions and continuing to seek answers that work for you. Bravo. von 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan H. B. Lobl Posted August 26, 2017 Report Share Posted August 26, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, VonNoble said: Jonathan HB Lobl, All any of us can do is speak for our own self. Thank you for your posting. It seems to me you DO have all the answers you need. You do your best. What more can any of us do? You accept that mistakes will happen - for all of us - as that is the nature of our existence. We are forever learning. We accept that learning curve is part of life and growth and we let the missteps go and move on. You can't get to second base with your foot firmly planted on first base. Seems to me you have a winning formula for dealing with questions and continuing to seek answers that work for you. Bravo. von Thank you. Part of my "formula" -- I'm not sure that's the right word -- is that I am cautious of invisible assumptions. For instance -- "What is your mission in life?". Instead of looking for an answer to the question -- I question the question. Who said my life has a mission? In the same way, when someone asks -- "What is God's plan for you?" -- I question whether God exists. -- Whether God has plans -- and by what authority should the plan be accepted, if God does exist and has a plan? In the end, I can live with not knowing. Not that I really have a choice. It seems better than buying into someone else's answer, that I'm sure is wrong. Or at least, is unproven. Or at least lacks evidence. This is an important point. Scripture is not evidence. Manifestly, scripture is produced by people, and there are some things that nobody knows. Philosophic arguments are also not evidence. They are arguments and arguments -- no matter how clever -- are not proof. While I am spouting my personal philosophy -- an addendum. This is in the nature of a general announcement and is not directed towards you. I graduated with my B.A. back in January of 1977. It was a good education It's been a while. I've forgotten a lot of math, science, philosophy and a lot of the other things, I had reasonable mastery of at the time. Largely because I didn't need it and didn't use it. I have remarkably little use for condescending academic snots; who think that their area of expertise is going to be the center of my life. I'm sure the snot will know who he is. Edited August 26, 2017 by Jonathan H. B. Lobl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.