lordie Posted June 22, 2013 Report Share Posted June 22, 2013 Ok i read an article that people who are in prison have the right to a free education for college courses Is it just me or does it really seem unfair to us Peace Lordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kaman Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 An educated convict is less likely to re-offend when released back into society. A "free" education is a small price to pay to keep someone out of prison. Personally, I don't think anything can possibly be "free" to someone who lives imprisoned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan52 Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 (edited) A "free" education is a small price to pay to keep someone out of prison.Its good to hear that you feel that way.... Can we send the bill to you? Nothings free, even freedom. Edited June 25, 2013 by Dan52 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordie Posted June 25, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 You guys made me laugh thanksActually i believe if a prisoner can get free education why cant any one else only fairPeaceLordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fawzo Posted June 25, 2013 Report Share Posted June 25, 2013 An educated convict is less likely to re-offend when released back into society. A "free" education is a small price to pay to keep someone out of prison. Personally, I don't think anything can possibly be "free" to someone who lives imprisoned.I agree. It costs methinks approximately $35,000 a year to house them in corrections facilities might as well educate them and quite possibly make them useful to society. Did you see the article where Denmark is closing prisons because of a lack of criminals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrDevon Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I agree. It costs methinks approximately $35,000 a year to house them in corrections facilities might as well educate them and quite possibly make them useful to society. Did you see the article where Denmark is closing prisons because of a lack of criminals?That's it: the US can just ship American prisoners to Denmark and let Denmark house and educate them. After all, the prisons are already built and all. Why waste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordie Posted June 26, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Haha Thanks Lordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsawtelle Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Consider for a moment ... What percentage of the American prison population has a high school level education even to start with? Many of the people that are getting their "free" education are actually getting their GED. Those that are working for a college degree are making themselves more marketable in the job market for when they do get out. Let us face it ... there are not a lot of chances for convicts out there depending on what they were in prison for in the first place. It would be difficult at best for them to compete with just a high school diploma or GED. Does it make me happy that the tax payers are paying for this? Not really. But there again ... we pay for children to get their "free" public education and the opportunity to go to college. I am curious what the cost of education for prisoners really is, and how many actually take advantage of this opportunity through the country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordie Posted June 27, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Yes it is true our taxes pay for our children education . But i dont think it should pay for criminals who abuse childrenOn the question about prisoners well it cost 6500 a week i assume to house and feed themPeaceLordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsawtelle Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Well - if you start selecting which inmates can getthe educatin, then the schools could start saying that a kid is a bully and therefore not eligible for their education. Free for one needs to be free for all. This is a concept that America is now struggling with as so many are standing with their hands out looking for more. As fr the cost estimate - I was considering the cost of education - not room and board. And I would not be surprised about the 6500, but as you say - you are making an assumption, and I have not looked up the info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Consider people like myself who pay taxes but have no children. Is it fair to force me to pay for the education of other people's children? The truth is that taxation is inherently unfair. It exists to force people to pay for things they neither want nor need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordie Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Bsawtelle and mererdogFirst i think our taxes should go to school for our kids what school we choose . And our taxes shouldnt pay for the criminals in jail imagine a child molestor getting free college why his victim still suffers and struggles Or a bully get to graduate and the victim dont Tax is great if we use it right we have no choose in the matter .I think criminal +bullies shouldnt get free stuff while their victims suffer . Maybe it is just me who sees it Peace Lordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuchulain Posted June 30, 2013 Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 I was in county jail once, and got extremely sick. I asked for medical care, and a guard gave me a form. three days later, a nurse looked into the small slot of the cell block at me, said your fine, and walked away.when i got out, my aunt complained about tax money going to all that great medical care for prisoners, because it had been in the news that prisoners cost x amount per year.I would suggest that perhaps the free education isn't as good as it sounds, or perhaps the media may be misrepresenting the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordie Posted June 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2013 Sorry to hear about your illness cuchulainI didnt mean to judge but if our tax pay for something like your medical care while in jail how come jail dont allow inmates help like yourself .Peace get wellLordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kaman Posted July 1, 2013 Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Its good to hear that you feel that way.... Can we send the bill to you? Nothings free, even freedom.I would be willing to pay for the education myself if I had the money and if I could collect the savings that would come due for not having to have the person go thru the expensive legal system and wind up in prison again at a huge expense. It is not like the prisoners are going to the finest schools and living in wonderful dormitories. If the ex convict does not re-offend and remains out of prison, the price of educating the convict is quite small in comparison to housing him/her again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordie Posted July 1, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2013 Tru brother kaman I agree but not to make this a debate I think there should be help for others toMaybe i feel for the low and mid classPeace Lordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted July 6, 2013 Report Share Posted July 6, 2013 I think there should be help for others toThere is. There is all sorts of help available for anyone in this country who wants to get an education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeker Posted July 18, 2013 Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 Dan52 - you seem quite happy to pay the bill to keep them locked up, so I don't see how you can have an objection in principle.Why are you so opposed to the idea of saving money by reducing the chances of them re-offending? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordie Posted July 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2013 I still dont believe in our tax money going to prisons for learning so seeker Sometime we cannot choose were our money goes so we complain when it goes there or dont complainLordie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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