RevJohnG Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 Hello all.I just want to share a bit of my history in regards to my ordination into the holy priesthood.My website is a duel ministry...that of the ULC and cosponsored by the Old Catholic Order of Paul the Apostle, "Old Catholic Paulists" www.oldcatholicapaulists.orgMy website is http://wiregrassulc.webs.comWhat is the "Old Catholic Church"?The Old Catholic movement traces its history to the Utrecht Union in the Netherlands. The church began splitting apart from Rome in the 19th century over the appointment of bishops by the Pope, who had been previously elected from within each diocese. The split became final after Vatican I when Pope Pius IX claimed Papal Infallibility. The prior tradition, and that which is still held by Old Catholics, is that of “Infallibility of Bishops in General Council.”The Old Catholic Church is associated with the Holy See of Antioch, which was founded by St. Peter as its first Bishop, and where the term "Christian " was first applied to believers and followers of Jesus Christ. The Old Catholic Church is part of the “One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church. " The Bishops of the Old Catholic Church "hold and keep" Apostolic Succession.The Old Catholic Church welcomes individual Roman Catholics, and other Christians, to participate in Communion and other Sacraments. Old Catholics believe in the "Real Presence" in the Eucharist; that the Bread and Wine, truly become the "Body and Blood, Soul and Divinity" of Jesus Christ.Of particular concern to The Old Catholic Church is the offering of Sacraments to those who have left Catholicism for whatever reason, or those who are considered "displaced Catholics", and/or other Christians, who seek forms of worship and beliefs, founded in Sacred Scripture and the Traditions of the Catholic Church. Link to comment
BpCorey Posted March 13, 2013 Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 wow, another catholic priest with ULC roots.I am Bishop Corey Blake SBM, OSB, SGSSt Benedict MissionOrder of St BenedictServants Of the Good Shepherd Link to comment
RevJohnG Posted March 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2013 wow, another catholic priest with ULC roots.I am Bishop Corey Blake SBM, OSB, SGSSt Benedict MissionOrder of St BenedictServants Of the Good ShepherdPleased to meet you good Bishop! Link to comment
Dorian Gray Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 John, your site says that you group does not allow you to hold ULC membership.."We do not allow for dual-membership with any other jurisdiction, as we feel that an Old Catholic Paulist Priest must dedicate his entire service to the faithful through the Old Catholic Order of Paul the Apostle. As our Lord stated, “No one can serve two masters”. (Matt 6:24)" Link to comment
RevJohnG Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 John, your site says that you group does not allow you to hold ULC membership.."We do not allow for dual-membership with any other jurisdiction, as we feel that an Old Catholic Paulist Priest must dedicate his entire service to the faithful through the Old Catholic Order of Paul the Apostle. As our Lord stated, “No one can serve two masters”. (Matt 6:24)"What that translates to is that I cannot be incardinated to two Bishops at once. There isn't a Bishop to incardinate to in the ULC so my Bishop approved this ministry. Link to comment
Dorian Gray Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Kirby Hensley was a Bishop..just saying... Link to comment
RevJohnG Posted March 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 Kirby Hensley was a Bishop..just saying...Not in the eyes of the Catholic or Old Catholic Church.I'm not going to argue semantics. He appointed himself a Bishop from what I have read. Took the Doctor of the Universe course. Link to comment
BpCorey Posted March 14, 2013 Report Share Posted March 14, 2013 standard catholic law.you shall not be under two bishops at once.and since thier is no ulc catholic section, ULC is fine.even if I started a catholic ULC,they would have to be under my division to break this rule. Link to comment
Seeker Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Somewhat off-topic, but do you folks with a Catholic background have any particular concerns or insights on Francis I? Link to comment
RevJohnG Posted March 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Somewhat off-topic, but do you folks with a Catholic background have any particular concerns or insights on Francis I?I think the new Pontiff will have a lot riding on his shoulders in regards to healing the Church from within and from without.He seems, so far, to be personable. I can only judge this by his humble roots that I've read about and also from watching his Urbi et Orbi, meaning "to the city and the world."I pray his papacy is a blessed one. Link to comment
RevJohnG Posted March 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 Just to add....Pope Francis came out of nowhere...he wasn't ever mentioned as a "top contender" to the papacy.I like that. Link to comment
Bro. Hex Posted March 15, 2013 Report Share Posted March 15, 2013 (edited) It is odd, though, that the voting Cardinals had to go all the way to Argentinato find an ITALIAN who was acceptable to the majority! Edited March 15, 2013 by Bro. Hex Link to comment
Dorian Gray Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 In Argentina, it is just as likely he could have been German... Link to comment
Zequatanil Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) Still waters run deep and as you pointed out Hex, he is an Italian. I still feel strongly about the St Malachy prophecies. Taking the name after Francis of Assisi dosn`t mean too much. What is in the heart that counts and the intention. I hopeI am wrong.blessings and peace,Suzanne Edited March 16, 2013 by Zequatanil Link to comment
MatthewMaiden Posted March 16, 2013 Report Share Posted March 16, 2013 (edited) As someone who was raised Catholic and still have many Catholic family members, I understand the "two bishops" discussion above and like them, believe everything is theologically copasetic. Also, I think Pope Francis I is off to a good start with so many people hurting right now. If he is truely as genuine and humble as he seems, then I think he will be instrumental in healing some of the wounds they have open currently.Oh, nice to meet you too Edited March 16, 2013 by MatthewMaiden Link to comment
RevJohnG Posted March 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2013 Still waters run deep and as you pointed out Hex, he is an Italian. I still feel strongly about the St Malachy prophecies. Taking the name after Francis of Assisi dosn`t mean too much. What is in the heart that counts and the intention. I hopeI am wrong.blessings and peace,SuzanneIn what way do you feel strongly about the St. Malachy "prophecies"?(perhaps another thread to discuss?) Link to comment
lordie Posted March 19, 2013 Report Share Posted March 19, 2013 I am impressed in all what you do and keep up the good work why you say because i was old catholic until i switch i cannot find any one who knows that religion thanksLordie Link to comment
pmo Posted March 26, 2013 Report Share Posted March 26, 2013 Interesting , PAULIST PRIEST, never heard of them, but always looking for new information.Thanks for the information.REVPO Link to comment
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