RevBogovac

But is it gullibility or plain self interest...?

Please don't (walk away). Although not everyone participates in the discussion doesn't mean they are not influenced by it. I know you(-r contributions) influenced my live. And it was for the better. So: thank you!

You do understand you're contradicting yourself...? If that supreme being already knows what you're going to do, you actually do not have free wil... it is all predestined then.

Ah yes, that obviously justifies infanticide. To you, at least. I've said it before, and I'll say it again: enjoy your "good" god.

Maybe. But a baby is not. Anyone (a supposedly all-knowing, all-mighty god in particular) who punishes them for anything is a "sick puppy" in my book.

Wow, that's really messed up! So he willingly "worked on" Pharaoh knowing he would be killing babies?!? And people still call that god "good"... Wow... just: wow... 🤮

Again the hostage-taker-argument? That's weak. (And we're running around in circles.) I can not come to any other conclusion that that a god who knowingly kills infants is a bad entity by my morals. But obviously you only "believe" the bibals ethics, that's your choice. No one's arguing Pharaoh eventually didn't get what he was due. But killing an entire nation's innocent first born is not "good". And that is what your god says he did. That is not "good" by my intrinsic morals. And not by anyone who has any intrinsic morals. But hey, nice ethics that book is conveying!

This has nothing to do with you or me. It's about your god claiming that he is "good" while killing innocent children. (No, Pharaoh didn't kill them, your god did. If he had an ounce of morals and was even close to being good he would have punished Pharaoh, not innocent children.)

You do understand that you are not only condoning but actually smiling upon infanticide. Dude, that's sick. I don't care who does the killing... it is inherently evil to kill babies. All you have demonstrated with your bible quotes is that your god is a vengeful evil being. And you smile upon that...

Really? You think your God "knows" anything about administering justice? Killing babies because their leader supposedly did something? Sure... Have "fun" with that megalomaniac for all eternity...

1. That's a load of crap logic criminals (hostage-takers/kidnappers) use to justify their actions; 2. Punishing others instead of the one responsible is morally wrong. He should have punished pharaoh. But sure, you think he is "good". Sure...

Killing innocent babies speaks more to the imagination of an unjust deity... Although I am sure there are more than enough "christians" to be found who will explain to us how their god did it out of love and a profound sense of justice.

Really? You are arguing about this with someone who will defend his god killing every single first born of an entire country because their leader didn't listen to the demands of his stepbrother... Even if that god existed, he is not "good" in my book. Neither would I worship him. Nor want to spend eternity with him.

Valid.

Wait... so the bible that is supposed to have been written by men who were directly inspired by the holy spirit of god almighty should have been clearer on anything?!? How so? Isn't the god that inspired it all-seeing, all-knowing et cetera...?

Well, at least scientific facts disproof creationism as described in genesis:

Yes, you don't see it. That's obvious. But the fact that you can even say that the proof is "+99% speculative" already shows two things: 1. you really do not understand statistics, and 2. you really do not understand science. And that's OK. Not everyone can handle those. No problem. But there is ample proof too (like carbon dating, astronomy, biology, physics et cetera) to prove beyond any reasonable doubt (maybe that's more comprehensible than for instance saying that there is 95% confidence level) that the bible is simply wrong. That the story in genesis is actually no more than exactly that: a story. PS. please don't bother jumping through the loophole of the remaining 5%...

It isn't important what you or I find of that proof. At least there is proof. Objective, empirically testable, proof. So a lot more proof that there is of creationism. As for creationism there is absolutely no proof whatsoever.

Yup, that's what you get once science is "not convincing"... anyway: That says it all.

Yes, we all know by now you think binary. But as has been explained to you numerous times (and you just don't want to grasp) that is not how the real world works. In this case: no, no definitive proof of either (nor will there ever be without the invention of time travel). But a lot of indirect proof for evolution theory and no proof whatsoever for creationism...

Still a #3[[ of a lot more proof that there is for genesis.

Welcome!

Welcome!

Yes, but that was less precise/personal. Things like traffic info, flight data et cetera. Lately ANPR camera's made it more personal and phones will make it even more so...

Thank you for the (very) nice read (again)? PS #1 still has me smiling BTW...