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Was this from a jail/prison or Evangelical summer camp? Sounds like the "rules" we had at Mission Springs (near Santa Cruz, CA) when I was a kid. Blessings of Peace,

When I served our country (USN-1973-1977) Paganism was talked about behind closed hatches and bulkheads. Our Chaplain didn't even recognize the "faith" as he felt it was "old world wives tales bs". Of course, he had no understanding of it. I'm so glad to see things have changed! The only "stupid question" is one that is not asked! But of course, you knew that, right? We look forward to your participation! It's especially the "blah, blah, blah" that most of us abhor in most other formalized beliefs. I know there were times in my Lutheran/Evangelical upbringing that almost every word sounded like Charlie Brown's teacher or mother - ya know, the "Wah wa waaah, wa, wa wahh!" stuff. Since growing past all that I still have difficulty in understanding the noise when a few simple words makes things so clear! Being a previous Sportster, then Soft Tail rider, I here ya loud and clear bro! We can all Do that which is right if we just put our minds to it. That was when I first was given the nickname "Preacher" (Bar Hoppers 1971-1978, Modesto, CA) as I continuously tried to sway the ruffian view to a more socially accepted view, much to my chagrin, but the nickname stuck anyway. In many ways those 7 years runnin' with the boys helped form my views that are still with me today. After the club was disbanded, by order of HA, well ya know, some grew up, some joined the master club, some left the lifestyle like me, but much like boot camp, what one learns in a MC sticks far longer than other formal teachings! Blessed rides bro. Aren't those "hoops" something? My first marriage was a lengthy process and my wife was required to "convert" from RC to Evangelical, which she attended the classes while I was in 'Nam and I think she was ready to throw in the towel due to it...it never made sense to either of us but at 18 and 19 yrs of age, we were still under much influence of parents. Since my Mom wouldn't "allow" (said she wouldn't attend) us to be married at St. Judes, nor was I willing to convert to RC....it was a terrible time for two kids who were deeply in love with each other...well at least I thought so! Isn't it amazing that Doing that which is Right has no hoops? Blessings be to echo and we hope to hear more from you! Knowing our place in the Universe is certainly a wonderful thing. When one is called, they are called, period. It doesn't matter what faith, belief or "brand", our heart screams to be allowed to voice itself. As you follow your chosen path, making it "a way of Life" may you find Peace, Happiness and Comfort in knowing the ULC family is always there for you! When I read this Czarina I was thrilled that you noticed your "gift" of having the mindset to counsel. That personal, one on one relationship with others, helping them find their way through this crazy mess of a world is something I fell few mainstream religions focus on...it seems to be more on spreading their 'brand' than to counsel. When my first wife and I started having problems and I approached my family's pastor, he simply threw a book at me and said "Read this and when you've completed the questionnaire in the back, let me know". Ah, say what? I never returned or looked back! Of course, our relationship did end in divorce, which I was totally against, but had we had a good counselor at that time, I'm certain we could have made peace. I've never regretted the divorce since meeting Kay, but in trying to "Do that which is right" and keep a family together, as instructed by the Bible, I still to this day feel let down by the pastor...frankly the way he handled it was not being of 'counsel', it made me feel as if he was too busy to handle my problems. ~~..*..~~ And for all those above I didn't personally respond to, Blessings of Peace to each and everyone of you for having the moxie and fortitude to follow your path of choosing. IMHO, that's the only way to "Do that which is Right"!!....for YOU. Blessings of Peace,

"For each path, there is a traveler and for each traveler there is a path." from a personal discussion with the Shaman Gray Owl, Hupa Nation, 1994 Blessings of Peace,

Blessed Beltaine, Brother! Bless this day, bless our care and may All That There Is be in Unity and Harmony! May the ground be fertile, seed be strong and folk be merry so that the winds and rains of spring bring a productive summer! Wassail! Blessings of Peace,

I think two things have happened here. One is the age old battle between progressiveness into modern translations of ancient texts and secondly what happens when "Rumor Control" gets a hold of an issue. Having such a public protest, especially of/from people who were not in the field or even know the woman just shows bigotry based on rumor and innuendo. It only causes me to wonder how many others are in jails around the world for similar actions/beliefs. I pray the best for her and her family. Blessings of Peace,