Jonathan H. B. Lobl

I also think highly of Lawrence Krauss.

I think that you are looking for connections that don't exist. Many of the godless are strongly patriotic and oriented to civics. Many of the godly will say, "I bow down only to God." Knowing how someone feels about government or religion gives nothing useful to use for extrapolation. It's not there.

I have placed orders with both the HQ and dot net.

I prefer what Stephen Hawking has to say about the origin of the Universe than Genesis.

By the nature of things, neither Agnostics nor Atheists tend to be big on spiritual authority. This does not translate into ideas on government authority.

First, a thought experiment. Suppose that God exists. What would change? Suppose that God does not exist. What would change? A church is it's people. It is an internet church, without a brick and mortar existence. Community is where we find it or make it. In this case, on line. We have a sense of humor. The Church is not a joke. If you do a Google search for Agnostic Church, we are what turns up. Now and then, I like to spend some time with the Godless. On an unrelated note, I posted for you on Tribal.

On this particular chart, I am an Agnostic Atheist. The probability of God's existence seems exceedingly small, but still greater than absolute zero. It would also be accurate to classify me as an Apathetic Agnostic. I don't actually care whether or not God exists. "We don't know and we don't care."

My ordination is with the Universal Church Triumphant of the Apathetic Agnostic. AKA The Apathetic Agnostic Church. The church motto is, "We don't know and we don't care." What would you like to know?

It turns out that reality is stranger than we thought. We don't need metaphysics when physics is so odd. IMO.

Everything? I also have membership in an Agnostic Church. It is Agnostic rather than interfaith like ULC. I doubt it is what you are looking for. Still, if you really mean "everything," let me know. I also have an Atheist Church group. Not much life in it, but if you really mean "everything" ............ There are a few here who identify as Agnostic. This might be a better place for you to explore Agnosticism, if that's what you want.

Are you signing in on Tribal as Sister Salome? I'm only a member. If you like, I can ask the administrator to look into it. My guess is that your application needs more time. It's only a guess.

I'm active on ULC-Tribal. By all means, join me.

I have memberships in Facebook and Linked in. I don't spend much time at either. When I am there, ULC does not come up. I don't conceal ULC membership. It doesn't come up. Are there social media where the ULC would come up? I don't know of any.

For me, house church suggests a level of closeness that is not found in a larger, institutional setting. Who attends the house church? People that are welcome in someone's home. Church is not always the best word. Sometimes, the group is about meditation or healing or simple fellowship.

I'm here and I clicked on Following you.

America has it's good points. Freedom of -- and from -- religion is great.

That has always been a problem with death cults. It is why Islamist suicide bombers are a problem now.

Maybe. Maybe not. Knowing with evidence that there is an afterlife would be a good start. Only a start. This is how knowledge increases. Incrementally.

Let the facts be verified. Let the consequences be.

I have come to regard religion as being like ice cream. There is a flavor for every possible taste.

It is a matter of perspective. If it is possible to demonstrate that ghosts exist; it only means that ghosts are part of the natural order. That is a big if. Conclusive proof is still pending.

You probably know about this. Just in case....... www.Biblegateway.com It's a good Bible research tool.

The problem with Revelation is that the symbolism is so thick that it can mean anything. My personal favorite is the interpretation that supports my biasses. It is a parable about Church and State relations. The woman in red is The Church. She is riding the Beast. The Beast is the State. The State is supporting the Church in an unnatural way. In the woman's hand is a sparkling beverage. The Church is getting intoxicated with the temporal power of The State. It will end badly for the woman. The Beast eats her flesh. After the Church losses it's independence, it becomes nothing more than part of the State. The Beast has consumed her.