RevTom

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  1. ordination

    I am sure this has been asked many times, but here we go again: I read the brouhaha concerning the knockoff imposter, The Monastery. The is some confusion about ordinations after sometime in 2006. My ordination was Ordination Date11/17/2006, and I am listed in this Directory of Ministers, so I assume all is well. I just want to make sure. Forgive me for sounding ignorant, and I cannot imagine why I would be listed in ULC's Directory of Ministers if I wasn't registered and ordained through this church, but I just want to remove any doubt. Thanks, TJ
  2. respect, dignity and grace

    I do not believe Dan is being a bigot when using Jew in the context given. When used as a slander, then of course name calling someone is bigoted, but when addressing a people in their own words, referring to scripture, it is not being slanderous nor bigoted. Should we strike the words from the Bible?
  3. One of the most influential ministers I have ever had was a lady minister. She was firmly devout in her faith and brought the little church I was a member of together in ways it had not been in decades. I was having a problem with faith (not good in a minister) and she said words that have always stuck with me: "Tlake the talk, be true in what you do, and you will gain the confidence in your faith again so you can walk the walk. She wouldn't let me give up or give in. It is her abiding faith that brought mine back to life.
  4. Aaaaahhhhh...Do I remember you from the FB forum? Nice to see you here.
  5. Authority and Logic

    Ah, yes. I researched it. The original quote was "If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with ** by W.C. Fields. Somewhere down the line, someone morphed it to "If you can't dazzle them with diamonds...". it was on Twitter (the latter morph) in 2011. All things considered, I guess the original by W.C. Fields is more highbrow without resorting to vulgarism. It is strange that I had never heard the quote by W.C. Fields, as I am a fan of his. My early career is factory jobs: I at the time didn't hold my college education in very high regard. Thanks for your interesting input and for having taught me once again, something new.
  6. Authority and Logic

    The one I have always been told is "If you can't dazzle them with diamonds, baffle them with ** Probably a lot more base and crass than our purposes call for here. I like your selection anyway...
  7. Why do humans intentionally seek to evolve into something far greater beyond their realistic needs? From SisterSalome's Difficult Questions. Man has always wondered what is around the corner, what is the meaning of life, etc. Why we seek to evolve into something greater than our realistic needs is the impetus that has driven mankind to discover new worlds, discover new medicine, to reach beyond our current understanding and seek that which is seemingly unknowable. This quest for the unknown has given us the discovery of things as complex as the quark, and as simple as an ink pen that can be used in space. It is this quest to evolve that will let us continue to solve dilemmas that face us.
  8. Authority and Logic

    I think that's a paraphrase?
  9. Lao Tzu saying

    No umbrage taken, and none meant, for sure!!! It was just interesting the different manners to which we all seek solutions. I was prescribed medication but stopped taking it because I worked with high speed machinery and couldn't operate them (large format printing presses) while zonked on prozac and later elavil. I white knuckled it until I came to terms with it, learned to recognize the triggers, and practiced a type of meditation.
  10. Greetings and Good Tidings, my friends: Thank you all for the good wishes. I have no idea why, but two things have entered my stream of thought during these past couple of weeks during the health issues. It had to do with people early in Johnny Winter's career thinking he had died, thus spurring his song "Still Alive and Well". I once had a similar occasion. I pulled into a service station (yes, back in the day when gas wasn't bought at convenience stores). A friend was manager of the service station, and was someone I had worked a factory job with for over 10 years. He told me that I was dead, and went on to explain that most of my friends thought I had died for some reason. Paraphrasing what turns out to be a misquote from Mark Twain, I told him the news of my death was particularly surprising to me. The second thought occurring to me is that I have an implanted defibrillator (ICD). It occurred to me that I cannot die a natural death: When the ICD detects my heart not beating properly, it will shock the bejeebers out of me, saving me from death and making me look like one of those cartoon characters who have spirally eyeballs and super spiked hair. I am feeling some rethinking about this needs to be done. I don't know how anyone else feels about it, but I am not sure I will enjoy being shocked as some ICD wearers have been, up to 20 times in a row, each time feeling like a horse kick to the chest. I'm thinking my doctors need to go back to the drawing board on that one!!! Anyway, I believe I am coming out of my current health problems and getting back into the swing of life. Thanks again for your support and concerns.
  11. I hope I am posting in the right place: I have been away from ULC forums for a couple of days. I am not abandoning, just having some health issues. I will be back. I just didn't want people to wonder what happened. Take Care, my brothers and Sisters.
  12. "Spooky" Science & Reason

    Interesting: I wonder how many of these creation tales or various religious doctrines started around the campfires of earliest mankind as they spun tales to pass the evening or related things that happened during their day, the stories passed down from generation to generation for eons until they morphed into tales unrecognizable by their creators into edicts for living by the inheritors, later taken as canon? I am Christian, but I believe in science and evolution.
  13. Hello, and Good Tidings; You make some interesting observations: Indeed, I believe it is the role of necessity that has driven many of the inventions and advances we enjoy. Also, I have observed people wanting a simpler life - to move away from the high tech lifestyle, the compulsion to compete and be at the top of the rung so to speak. I am one of those who have gone back to a simpler lifestyle. For me, it is the most fulfilling: Yet, I do enjoy the advances in technology mankind has made over the course of history, although many of the things that I once thought of as necessities are not even desirable any more. Still I admire and support the discoveries that have been and continue to be made in the hopes that these discoveries will be beneficial to all mankind. I believe that our Creator has blessed us with a passion to look around the bend, travel that unknown road, seek that which we do not know.
  14. Lao Tzu saying

    I do follow Lao Tzu and other great philosophers and spiritual leaders. Thank you for your post: If we learn to live our lives by the wisdom granted us through these spiritual leaders and philosophers, we will accomplish much individually and collectively. I also enjoy seeing the posts of people here that are thinkers and introduce new avenues of thought and wisdom. I believe ULC is blessed with several free thinkers.
  15. Lao Tzu saying

    ...in all things, bring your problems to your higher power, whatever your spiritual or in the case of non believers, whatever you draw strength from. For me, as a Christian, that is Christ our Lord. reflecting on God's word brings me solace. I am one of those who battle depression. For the most part I have comes to terms with it, and found solace and comfort through my Christian faith. Peace to all.
  16. Lao Tzu saying

    Although in most aspects this is a nice sentiment, the harsh reality is that for most people - the vast majority - living with depression, they are living with a disease that needs to be treated, the same as diabetes, schizophrenia, arthritis, or any other malady would need to be treated. I urge people living with depression to seek the medical help they need, to avoid those who would deny and have you deny the medical context of your illness, and thus enable yourselves to live productive lives with as much happiness as possible.
  17. This is a poem I wrote recently I hope you like it. Sorry friends: I forgot I had already posted this a while back...duh!!!
  18. Greetings and Good Tidings; I don't think I would remain emotionally well very long working in a hospice. People are put there expecting to die. I find it rather morbid. Maybe on a very part time basis of one or two days per week it would work out.
  19. You know what? come over to Facebook or Twitter if you want to keep being contentious...I'm through with you here.
  20. Enemies

    I feel that I have exhausted the means at my disposal to argue against pacifism at all costs and have had to resort to pulling out the heavy artillery, so to speak. I am firmly convinced that aggressors have a predisposition to br nonsocial and unreasonable, tending toward psychopathic mentalities. As such the use of reason with them is futile, IMO. I have included here a couple of case studies for your perusal and edification: http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-life-and-religion/93246/born-to-bully http://www.businessinsider.com/pope-francis-endorses-use-of-force-against-isis-in-iraq-2014-8
  21. It is to my chagrin that I have a tendency to respond in kind...I apologize to the group, admittedly a bit reluctantly to Diego_008.
  22. Greetings and Good Tidings; I do not think I would like to concentrate on funerals, but maybe include them as a comfort to those who have lost loved ones, because I can relate to the experience so closely.
  23. Actually, I did cite scripture and the studies around those scriptures, You are rather boorish, myopic, and conceited to think you have the valid interpretation when the scriptures prove otherwise. Do not be patronizing or condescending to me. You are not intellectually nor educationally equipped for it. https://christianuniversalist.org/resources/articles/salvation-conspiracy/ http://www.auburn.edu/~allenkc/etpunish.html http://brazenchurch.com/how-hell-invaded-church-doctrine/ Young’s Analytical concordance to the Bible, by Robert Young, LL.D.; Thomas Nelson Publishers. Young’s Literal translation of the Holy Bible, by Robert Young, LL.D.;Baker House. Greek English Concordance, by J.B. Smith; Herald Press. The Emphasized Bible, by J.B. Rotherham;Kregel Publications. Concordant Literal New Testament, by the Concordant Publishing Concern. In the 1907 book, Lives of the Fathers: Sketches of Church History in Biography, written by Frederick D. Farrar, who was Chaplain in Ordinary to the Queen of England, we read about Augustine: The advocacy of hell came primarily on the scene with Augustine: In no other respect did Augustine differ more widely from Origen and the Alexandrians [Eastern Church] than in his intolerant spirit. Even Tertullian conceded to all the right of opinion. [Augustine] was the first in the long line of Christian persecutors, and illustrates the character of the theology that swayed him in the wicked spirit that impelled him to advocate the right to persecute Christians who differ from those in power. The dark pages that bear the record of subsequent centuries are a damning witness to the cruel spirit that actuated Christians, and the cruel theology that impelled it. Augustine was the first and ablest asserter of the principle which led to Albigensian crusades, Spanish armadas, Netherland’s butcheries, St. Bartholomew massacres, the accursed infamies of the Inquisition, the vile espionage, the hideous bale fires of Seville and Smithfield, the racks, the gibbets, the thumbscrews, and the subterranean torture-chambers used by churchly torturers.[v] Following on the heels of Augustine, the greatest influence on today’s hell theology via most modern Bible translations came from Jerome’s Latin Vulgate. Jerome translated this tainted version of the Scriptures from a very inferior Latin text in the late 4th century: For over a thousand years (c. AD 400–1530), the Vulgate was the definitive edition of the most influential text in Western European society. Indeed, for most Western Christians, it was the only version of the Bible ever encountered. The Vulgate’s influence throughout the Middle Ages and the Renaissance into the Early Modern Period is even greater than that of the King James Version in English; for Christians during these times the phraseology and wording of the Vulgate permeated all areas of the culture.[vii] What was the problem with Jerome’s Bible? It was heavily influenced by Latin hell-inventing theologians like Tertullian and Augustine. When you realize that the hell doctrine was so late in being adopted by the Church (and hence, Scriptures), the poorly constructed walls of orthodoxy begin to crumble. It was several hundred years after Jesus and the apostles that men began formulating many of these new Church doctrines and creeds, many still a part of Evangelical Christian orthodoxy to this day. Had our old English Bibles been translated directly out of the Greek instead of Latin, it’s very probable that the doctrine of eternal torment would never have found its way into our modern Bibles and theology at all. Many of these doctrines were strong-armed into the Church through major dissension and even bloodshed, with intolerant, oppressive Church leaders insisting that they were “led by the Spirit” on such matters. Shall I go on?
  24. Believe as you will...I cited studies that concur and passages that support the statements.