Rev. Calli

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    Lord High Barista of the Pickle Conspiracy
  • Birthday 01/31/1957

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  1. Greetings to you all my sisters and brothers, I want to add my own congratulations to the Hensley family and all those who have worked so hard to make the ULC the church (in the truest sense of the word) that it is today. In truth, I have never requested ordination by the ULC because the rules of the denomination I am ordained in forbid me to do so. But, as an American, I applaud the ULC for being the one genuine church that empowers all people, whatever their belief system is, to exercise their faith and share the ideas and insights that they have received thru the Creator or their own life experiences. We may not agree on all things. But the ULC helps to protect the rights of all people to think for themselves and seek God in their own ways. For this, we all owe Kirby Hensley and all those who have worked so hard to continue to keep the ULC alive our gratitude. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  2. Greetings to you my brother, I would have to disagree. Laughter is also a sound of joy In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  3. Greetings to you my sister, But funny I am reminded of how the late, great Robin Williams always insisted that God has a sense of humor. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  4. Greetings to you my brother, If I misinterpreted or misspoke regarding your true views about the scriptures I do humbly apologize. However, I would ask that you elaborate your views regarding the difference between inerrant and infallible, as it seemed to me as I read your posts that you were implying both. As to your comment about me being condescending to people of earlier times, that is not the case at all. It is not condescending to state the obvious. Peoples who lived centuries before us did not have the scientific knowledge that we have now. Your statement seems to me to be akin to accusing me of being condescending to my 7-month-old granddaughter when I talk baby talk to her. In my view (and of course, you are free to disagree) God spoke to people in the way the people of that time could understand and relate to. In the same way Jesus used parables to impart truth, so too did God inspire the authors of scriptures to use parables and folk tales to impart Gods word to the people of those times. Is is not arrogance, nor is it telling lies. It's knowing your audience and speaking to them in ways that make sense to them. When I took my ordination vows over 20 years ago now, I vowed to uphold our Articles of Religion. Never have I gone back on that vow. I do believe that Holy Scriptures contain all that is necessary to know to achieve salvation. And all that is necessary for a Christian to believe is that Jesus is our savior. To have faith in him. To follow the Great Commandment to love God with all our heart, soul and strength and to love our neighbors as ourselves. This is what all scripture points to. What is not necessary, in my view, and the view of millions of other believers throughout the world is to insist that every story, every tale, every parable is literally true in all regards. Certainly, you may disagree with me, as that is your right. But it is not your right to tell me what I must believe. John Wesley himself never insisted that all believe in the exact same way. Remember that the Methodist movement of his time comprised people of a wide variety of Christian understandings. All he asked of anyone is "If your heart is as my heart, take my hand." In Christ's service, Rev. Calli
  5. Greetings to you my brother, Very true. Just as individuals change and can become something quite different that what they started out as so to do institutions. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  6. Greetings to you my brother, I live to serve In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  7. Greetings to you my brother, I would have to disagree, lovingly of course. While I revere the Bible as part of Gods revelation to humanity, I do not see it as inerrant in the same way you propose. For me it is God speaking to the people of the time it was first written in ways that they would understand and relate too. While certainly it speaks to us today, God continues to reveal her mighty works to us thru Science and thru the Holy Spirit. To say that revelation ended when the Bible was canonized is to say, IMHO, that God is dead. My God, the God I love and serve, is alive and continues to speak to us. We must be open to continued revelation. That is the glory of God. That God loves us, cares for us so much, that he continues to speak to us, to guide us, and calls us into a more intimate relationship with him then just through the pages of a book, wonderful that that book is. In Christ's service, Rev. Calli t
  8. Greetings to you my brother, I do not believe that to be the case at all. I see in evolution proof of the Glory and love of God. Taking time, slowly, patiently, lovingly, to mold and form creation from the nothingness from which it came to the marvelous delight it is now. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  9. Greetings to you my brother, When I first entered the ministry some 25 years ago now, I came up with this prayer that I use for the sick, Creator God, father and mother to us all, source of life and love and all good things, be with our brother/sister now in their time of trial and need. Comfort them with your presence, and offer them healing of body and peace of soul. Help them to know that you are always with them, and will never desert them. All these things we ask in the name of Jesus, our risen Savior and Redeemer. Amen. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  10. Greetings to you my brother, Two comments. First, I see the Book of Job as a tale meant to acknowledge the question "why do bad things happen to good people?" It doesn't give an answer to this. It does, however, point out, in the words of Job, "Should we take the good from God and not the bad?" Typically, Job is classified as part of the wisdom literature of the Bible, just as the Book of Ecclesiastes. Personally, I prefer the book of Ecclesiastes, which point out, in a much quicker manner, that both good things and bad things happen to all. It doesn't really matter if you are a saint or sinner, rich or poor. These things are a part of life. As to your comment about God already knowing the outcome, I would suggest that one of the attributes of God is that he doesn't know all that is going to happen. I would suggest that God perhaps, just perhaps, delights in surprise. I know that the majority of people have this concept of God that God can do anything at all. One of the best ways in Catholic school growing up to get the nuns mad was to ask the following question: "Sister, God is all powerful right? If that's the case, can God make a rock so heavy that God can't lift it? snicker...snicker...." Aside from getting the questioner a rap on the knuckles for being a butthead (ouch), it points out the fact that God cannot do things that are mutually contradictory. The same is true for knowing the future. Because God created a world where humanity is free to exercise free will, God cannot know what each of our choices are going to be. This btw will be a totally heretical idea to any of my Christian brothers and sisters who are from a Calvinistic school of thought. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  11. Greetings to you my brother, While I do not believe in a literal Adam and Eve (which would be very difficult indeed since I believe in evolution and the Big Bang Theory of Creation), I do see the need for salvation. This comes from my process theology view of God's nature, which views God as being capable of being surprised, and not really knowing the future. As humanity evolved, and became self-aware and capable of rational thought, God hoped, as a good parent would hope, that her children would choose to do good. Alas, that is not how it turned out. People consistently choose to put their own self-interest, their own needs and desires, over the needs of their brothers and sisters. The Hebrew Scriptures show us how time and time again, God (through the prophets) attempted to instruct humanity on how to live with each other the way God intended. Now I will readily grant you that certain rules given in the Old Testament are perhaps not quite what God had actually said. And some of the laws of the Torah were incredibly repressive. But after centuries, when God saw that clearly humanity was not going to follow wholeheartedly and series of laws, God decided to try something different. Instead of giving a detailed set of laws, God sent us Christ, to model how we were to live with each other. He gave us Christ to proclaim what the two greatest commandments were. But knowing that even then, with two what seem to be very east law to follow, people would still mess up frequently, Jesus then allowed himself to be put to death, paying the price for our failures, so that we would never be separated from God by our own sins, asking only our faith in Jesus as Lord and Savior in return. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  12. Greetings to you all my sisters and brothers, I agree with our brother mark45. If I remember my ULC history correctly, Rev. Hensley used this passage out of the Gospel of John to justify ordaining anyone who asked for ordination: John 15:16 You did not choose me but I chose you. And I appointed you to go and bear fruit, fruit that will last, so that the Father will give you whatever you ask him in my name. So in a sense, the ULC does have a Christian basis to it But, and this is really key here, at no time Rev. Hensley ever intend the ULC to be just another Christian Church. The ULC was founded in large part because Kirby did not believe that any religion had it right in regards to God. All, without exception in his view, were wrong. To be perfectly truthful, the ULC was also founded as a tax protest movement. In the book "Con Men: Fascinating Profiles of Swindlers and Rogues from the Files of the Most Successful Broadcast in Television History" Morley Safer of "60 Minutes:" states that Hensleys mission was, in fact, to make every American a tax-exempt Minister. Now in fairness, we have to keep in mind that this was in the 60's and 70's. Personally, I believe that the UC has grown and become something very different than what Rev. Hensley originally envisioned. It is not a Christian church or an atheist church. It is a church that encompasses all beliefs and no beliefs. It is a church that empowers all people to proclaim their own understanding of God. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  13. Greetings to you all my sisters and brothers, Greetings to you my brother, While it sounds good in principal, alas I fear what you propose would be something like herding cats. The members of the ULC represent about as broad a spectrum of religious and political thought as I think is humanly possible. Other than being advocates of total religious freedom, I doubt there are any other issues that you would be able to get more than a handful of members to support. You have to keep in mind that while there are many Christian members of the ULC, I would be surprised if they were even the majority. Even among the Christian members, there is a wide diversity of political and religious views. " On that happy note, I rest my case. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  14. Greetings to you my brother, It's not a problem at all. In Milwaukee for example, the Metropolitan Community Church first established a congregation that met in a meeting room in a small hotel. This situation went on for some years until they had enough of a congregation to purchased a small church. While they were meeting at the hotel, the money they collected during the worship services went to paying the small rent required for the meeting room. I'm not sure if the people of the congregation were able to deduct the offering or not on their taxes. But that is not the important part. The issue is if the people really desire to establish a real congregation, they will find a way to do it. In solidarity, Rev. Calli
  15. Greetings to you my brother, Welcome to the forum. We're practically neighbors. I'm just across the lake in Milwaukee. In Solidarity, Rev. Calli