Atwater Vitki
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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Thank you so much. I'm still learning to navigate the ULC online site but I'll get it
After I get my website published and all the proper links and info entered here, I'll have more time to learn where to post what
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We are glad you joined us! We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We also look forward to your involvement and expressing your Spiritual views. Blessings of Peace,
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome Toby and yes, what Rev Trouten said Pastor Charles. Blessings Be, -
Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Whoa, you too? I keep telling folks spaghetti is not a "good eat while driving" food! But on a serious ♪.... So we get a secular person to administer the litmus test about religion...oh wait, no, they would be a bit swayed by the intangibilities. Of course an atheist wouldn't do either because of their own bias toward such silly beliefs. Or we...no, ut uh, that wouldn't do it so...ah... or maybe... doh....I ! I honestly do not believe there is any feasible manner in which to calculate Belief, Faith or Religious Conviction, because it is such a personal thing. And...ah HA! Personal thing! Perhaps that is the crux of the entire issue and gee wiz wolligers Wally, all folks need to let that happen is tolerance. A prime example or two of intolerance are the killing of Avijit Roy or the faceless extremes of "Jihad John" or ISIS which seems to have taken the place of Al Quaida on the most hated list for America. Hate and kill the things we don't agree with seems to be the "Commandments" from the various "true Gods", really? Is that truly what their "God" is telling them or is that the age old misinterpretation of His word that has gone on for millennia? War is war, killing is killing and if we are not to murder then outlaw war, outlaw hate crimes, outlaw everything that we as a society don't agree with....oh yeah, we already have done that haven't we!?! Bad day or not cuchulain, I'll bet ya didn't roll out of bed and grab a machete and lop your neighbor's head off! I'm also pretty sure you didn't send a RPG down the running lights of a UN troop carrier, burn the Muslim family down the street to death or execute a Buddhist this morning....all current headlines that example intolerance each and every day of our existence here on planet Earth. Blessings of Peace, ...and in closing...the comment below from Carl Sagan was posted as a reply to one article on Avijit Roy. I repost it as it expresses some pretty in-depth thinking and demonstrate a large volume of tolerance. quote from "miguel b." in comments: (Yahoo! News)
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...and then, in the end, how can any test or scientific scoring method actually measure the amount of anybody's belief or faith in a religious deity or institution? How does anyone line up ten, fifty, a hundred absolutely true believers who all claim to be the poster child for that Belief and measure their actual belief? Well, evidently these two scientist did and had a great time using comparative analysis of data collected. So be it. I have to agree with "bias confirmation" on the whole matter, however.... (of course, you KNEW there was going to be a 'however' when Al's pontificating ) I think I get where you're coming from, Pete, on posting this article when you stated: It is interesting that science would even attempt to study or measure such a thing as belief and how analytical thinking tends to sway people away from staunch religious Belief. I mean whenever we look at anything from a purely analytical view point we have to consider all available information including what does and does not make sense, logically, and what agrees with known historical data etc etc etc.. Therein lies the rub with any religion. Few if any of the characters involved can be proven to have existed, and in many cases if they did exist it was under a different name or persona. We know that ancient man "borrowed" stories from one another and over time made them their own and another complete set of etc etc etc's that we're all aware of. The thing I did not see in this study was the formula for belief based on individual belief alone...just because it's what a person honestly feels is right for them regardless of socio-politico influences. In today's world there are 7 billion and growing opinions of what makes up the "true religious belief"...what about feral children? That handful of people that have no idea about any "difference" between religions or that religion even exists...what would they believe in? Would that not be the only true test by having no outside or peer influence on what we believe? Thanks for the morning stimulation here Pete, got me thinking about a few things! Blessings of Peace,