Jonathan H. B. Lobl

Atheist Religion

Are you talking about the Bible? a written record of past events sworn transcripts (affidavits) written testimony of eye witnesses Seriously? The Bible? As evidence?

Just so.

I think that you're giving Dan too much credit. He's not a deep thinker. More like a conditioned response. It's more than a reflex, but not much more.

Dan, even the concept of evidence eludes you. Spouting doctrine is not proof.

You tell me. Why does God need Human scribes? Why can't God self publish the inerrant Book of Books? Why are Bibles not fire proof? Why can't God make earthquake proof churches? It's almost as though God doesn't exist.

God who created the Universe and everything in it -- can't create anything that people make. Not a book. Not a boat. Not a building. How strange. It's almost as though God didn't exist. 😃

I was starting to forget why arguing with you was so pointless. Thank you for reminding me.

Oh, look! Trees and bed bugs and cancer! Which brings us, at best, to Deism. Actually, not even.

It's hard being nice, when people trip out on religious authority. They Know. As in -- "God and I make a majority". When a young child talks to his invisible friend, it can be cute. When an adult talks to his invisible friend, not so much. When he expects me to be afraid of his invisible friend -- I sometimes forget to be tactful.

I have also learned, that I am not as nice as I used to be.

Over time, I have learned a lot from Dan. Mostly about my own short comings. I used to think that I could reason with anybody. I was mistaken. It has been an education. As a result, I know much more about my limitations.

That's Dan. Fact free, faith statements, made with certitude and conviction. As though they were evidence.

Such is the nature of Dan's fact free faith. But it's worse. He think's that disproving pixies is our task. He takes the existence of the Sun as proof of pixies. He thinks that without pixies, we have no hope, no morals and no knowledge of divinity. Worst of all, is the insistence that the existence of pixies is important. We are A-Pixy-ists. Are we now doomed, to spend the rest of our lives arguing about pixies? Or do we get to say -- Sure pixies could exist, but so what? There is no good reason to think that pixies exist and I don't care.

Good.

I have nothing to gain by arguing with your faith statements. So, I won't. It's futile, I'm bored and I can't be bothered.

The question of God's existence, is both meaningless and futile. A god which can not be demonstrated to exist, is irrelevant and meaningless. This is the way to end foolish arguments about faith and belief.

Even the question of God's existence is meaningless.

Christian fears about Deism. How could anybody be afraid of Deism? Christian insecurity finds a way.

We expect such a huge, subtle distinction from Dan. I know nothing about anything. I know nothing about God. No wonder that Dan gets confused.

I understand. I have confused you. The fault is mine. I need to speak more plainly, with a lower common denominator. Apatheism: Neither the possible existence, nor nonexistence, of God matters. Even the question of God's existence is meaningless. Are we happy now?

Not so. Without repetition, they would still have an abundance of blind faith, irrationality and bull crap.

Pleasant dreams.

I know it was for Dan. I wanted to say hello. On that note -- Dan just got through saying -- yet again -- that Atheists believe in nothing. That Agnostics know nothing. Since he is incapable of learning, I don't care what he thinks. Discussion is for people with mental process. Not rote responses.