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3 hours ago, the Hearthwitch said:

Just tried it. Yep. 



I don't want to jump to conclusions.  The Monastery seems to be in control of the HQ website.  This automatic transfer to the .org website is going to seriously confuse people. 


How long has this been going on?


Why did I have to find out?  I think someone in administration is asleep at the switch.

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On 1/19/2024 at 7:17 PM, Seeker said:

I've only ever used before.


Both and work fine for me in the UK, using Cloudflare DNS.

Who is your DNS provider? They may have it wrong.





I used your link.  That worked. It took me to the Modesto hq.


Foolish me.  I had been using -  which the Monastery uses to drive business to their site.  Dirty, dirty.


Just one problem.  The authentic hq site in Modesto still thinks it's 2006.

I'm glad I found it again.  I grieve that it's  18 years out of date.

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On 1/22/2024 at 1:24 AM, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:


I use Google Chrome. 

That's usful, but not what I was asking.  The DNS is used behind the scenes to translate the alphabtic address (eg into an IP address (eg which is needed to tell the network where to find the site. It's the internet equivalent of a phone book. There are many DNS providers, who should give the same result.  Some will also track what you are visiting, some use plain text, some allow encryption.


Since you use Chrome, you are probably going via Google, or one set by your service provider.


It looks like you have found the problem  without getting into that (more info at, but it is worth checking at some point  if you are at all concerned about security.


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