Brother Kevin

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    Folsom, California

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    baseball, vintage base ball, computers, travel, learning Russian, self-government
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    Dogs (1), orangutans & slow loris (only in the wild)
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    Stupid Should Hurt
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  1. Dear Brother Kevin and ULC Staff,


    I hope this email finds you all well.  I would like to wish you all a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays. 


    Sincerest  Dr. Rev. Rebecca L. Burkett 

  2. Hello how are you?

    1. Brother Kevin

      Brother Kevin

      Hello Johnny. I'm fine.  Thank you.  I hope you are as well. 


      Merry Christmas!

    2. Johnny Dunlap
  3. Hello, although I was Ordained on 8/11/2003, I am new here. Happy 55th Anniversary President Hensley and Staff. My sincere well wishes to you in the future. I have always been a Believer in the fundamental, universal doctrine of absolute religious freedom for all peaceful people. I am truly privileged to be amongst you my Family.

    If I may, I would like to send my Blessings to our Brothers and Sisters in Las Vegas. There has just been the deadliest mass shooting in US history. At least 50 people are dead and at least 200 injured. I am a Feeler and my Heart is hurting. Brother Kevin, besides praying, what should we do? I wish I could go there and help.

    1. Brother Kevin

      Brother Kevin

      It is a challenge for all people with hearts.   Everyone must find their own way to answer the "what to do" question.

      I come from a background where I was exposed, in my job, to a lot of violence and the dark side of life.  So I learned some coping skills that were effective, and also some things that were not good to do (like blocking out feelings).


      One thing that helps for me is to allow myself to experience that logical perspective.  There have been 530 murders in Chicago alone in 2017.   But they didn't happen in one day, from one man shooting into a crowd.  So were their lives less of a loss, simply because they didn't die along with 57 others in a dramatic way?   530 souls lost to murder!    In one city alone.

      Maybe that makes things worse for you. I hope not.  For me, it helps me realize that this is just a part of the world we live in, and among the many horrific ways demonstrates our capacity to be inhumane to one another.   It has been like this for a long time.  Nothing has changed.  And there are also many wonderful loving people in this world.

      Sadly, it was not even the deadliest mass shooting in US history:

  4. Prayers for the people of Texas. For their safety and for courage and strength for those who will have to rebuild their lives. And for the wisdom and heart to continue to pull together and look after one another.
  5. Hello friends, I hope you are well and hanging in there through all of the changes going on with the forum. The process of the big changes is nearly completed. And there are some things to come in the near future which will hopefully express a sense of genuine gratitude to all community members who participate on the forum. Truly, the members of the forum community care for one another. There are special relationships created and built here where connections have lasted for years. I cannot thank you enough for choosing this forum to make it your place to come together.
  6. Five syllables here Seven more syllables there Are you happy now? (allegedly attributed to an anonymous 4th grader)
  7. Happy Birthday to you. Egads. Now I'm gonna have that song stuck in my head. I hope you have a great one!
  8. "Neither this Court, nor any branch of this Government, will consider the merits or fallacies of a religion. Nor will the Court compare the beliefs, dogmas, and practices of a newly organized religion with those of an older, more established religion. Nor will the Court praise or condemn a religion, however excellent or fanatical or preposterous it may seem. Were the Court to do so, it would impinge upon the guarantees of the First Amendment." I'd love to have been there to see Kirby's reaction to hearing these words from Judge Battin's ruling in ULC v USA! 43 years later, and those wor
  9. Hello

    1. Brother Kevin

      Brother Kevin

      Hello Johnny!  Good to see you here on the Forum!   Post post post!   We need the activity to prime the pumps to get this thing firing on all cylinders again!


    2. Johnny Dunlap
  10. It's been 55 years this month since Kirby Hensley decided to incorporate the rapidly-growing church that he founded in the garage of the Hensley family home. On May 2, 1962 papers were filed with the Secretary of State, establishing the Universal Life Church as a not-for-profit corporation headquartered in the state of California. Over the decades, the church grew like wildfire, attracting attention around the world for its "novel" doctrine, that religious freedom is a natural right of all peaceful people, not something to be tampered with or unduly regulated by governments. Surprisingl
  11. I received this information from Dusty Hoesly, a member of our ULC community who has been following this case closely. It appears that the state of New York has a different understanding of the word "Supreme" and especially "Supreme Court" than the rest of the world, and that this case still has a path to appeal even within the state. So far the courts are ruling in favor of religious freedom on this one, but it will continue to be one to keep an eye on! Dusty wrote: I quickly scanned the court decision, and sure enough the judge rules that the ULC counts as a religion in New York.
  12. It doesn't change the law, no. New York City was already accepting ULC ministers and issuing them the required permits to officiate marriage. That issue was resolved quite a long time ago. There were those who claimed that the state law of New York did not include ULC ministers, for various reasons, and pointed to an old divorce case for support of that idea. Which to me, always seemed silly, because if true, that would have meant that the New York City Clerk's office was issuing the permits to ministers who were not authorized by the state law to officiate marriage. (Not to mention
  13. Andre Hensley notified me that the New York Supreme Court has handed down a decision in a case that has a lot of significance for religious freedom in general and for the Universal Life Church specifically. In Oswald v Oswald, the court held among other things, that the Universal Life Church is a "church" within the definition of the New York statutes. As church president, Mr. Hensley was called to New York to testify in this case, which the court relied upon heavily in making its determination. It will be interesting to see whether that information is redacted from the case file wh
  14. In the scenario you describe, I do not know of any "deductions" you can take. There are no tax deductions that accrue to individuals for using their time and resources to do good in an informal and independent manner. Tax exemptions apply to churches, not individuals. And tax benefits and deductions for ministers come in the form of Employee Business Expenses, so yes, you do have to be an employee to have that type of deduction. A church can pay ministers certain tax-exempt benefits, such as a travel, housing, or clothing allowance, but again, to receive such a benefit, it has to come fro