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Atwater Vitki replied to RowanWolf's topic in * Welcome - ULC Minister's Introduction Junction *
It is admirable that some folks desire for the ULC is to be seen and become more "mainstream", an idea I'm all for. I also see the problems that arise when a "gatekeeper" is put in place. The fact you have taken the time to write up a synopsis about your chosen path is admirable RowanWolf, but let's never forget who started the ULC and for what reasons/rationale as Panpariel pointed out. I've talked to many ULC ordained persons who have taken their calling to a Higher Level and created legitimate, legal church structures out of their once "tongue in cheek" beginnings....I've also talked with others who started with a legal, purposeful intent and simply went ha-ha banana's with the idea...to each their own I think applies here! Trying to get the ULC to become more than it is, is quite the individual process I believe. I'm thankful we have individuals of all sorts involved so let's allow those who desire nothing more to be content and those who require more to develop that for themselves! Blessings of Peace, -
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Welcome to our forum. We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We are glad you joined us! Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We are glad you joined us! Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our forum. We hope you find direction, meaning and purpose while going through the many topics and posts. We are glad you joined us! Blessings of Peace,
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Slowly put the dictionary down, quietly back away and don't make any threatening moves Was it here or the other ULC site the argument came up about "Druid" vs. "Pagan"? Pete, Bro Kaman you remember? Anyway the accusation was of making sweeping and broad acceptance of the term "Druid" which only meant a small sect of particular belief/acts Celts...not a generalized term meant to encompass...blah de blah blah...just exactly what we're talking about here. There is no doubt that certain things have specific meanings in certain circles and then a whole other set of meanings within the general populace...say "Druid" to a football stadium full of folks and the picture of a wizardy looking fellow with long staff that does magic appears in the minds of most folks. In a small group of academia it will be the specific and exacting picture of what a "druid" truly was: A druid was a member of the priestly class among the Celtic peoples of Gaul, Britain, Ireland, and possibly elsewhere during the Iron Age. Very little is known about the ancient druids. They left no written accounts of themselves and the only evidence is a few descriptions left by Greek, Roman and various scattered authors and artists, as well as stories created by later medieval Irish writers. Yeah, I can only recount what I said earlier Belenos, focus on what description and meaning you put on the term you label your path as and the heck with all the dissenters and nay-sayers. In certain circles my title of Vitki is often challenged as there is no "official record" of its ancient use...well except for esoteric circles that are hard pressed to reveal their information to outsiders, therefore anything and everything from them is non-sense...according to some. You have our support here Belenos and we appreciate your taking the time to define things for us. Blessings of Peace,
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I've been to several lectures on the Old Norse mythos and etymology and do recall the värdlökkur label from a Ziemke talk (1996/7?) regarding the old and new Pagan used terms such as "priest, priestess, drightens, vitkis, warlocks and witches". I think one thing that troubles me the most over all the controversy of some "labels" is the fact it becomes academic spew and drivel rather than anything qualitative and enhancing to one's education. One text that summed that up for me was the Glyfaginning (Flyting of Glyfli - Edda) and when things are compared one to another we find it's impossible to say which is better or best or best of the best...which of course is the whole process behind the flyting in the first place....but I digress.... Guess the point I'm going for in a long, round'about way, Belenos, is call yourself Warlock or Varlock, male witch or vitch...as long as you are clear on what the term means to you, you have a winner! Blessings of Peace,
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Thanks for welcoming me. I'm just strolling right now. visiting the site regularly. participate in a few forums lately. just getting around and learning more about this site.
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our growing family of friends here on the forum. We're glad you could joins us! As you feel the need, join us in the discussions and let us know a bit about yourself. It's always a pleasure getting to know new folks. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to the ULC Forum! We're ever so glad that you decided to join us and we look forward to hearing about your particular Spiritual Journey. We hope you'll share your thoughts on whichever path you have chosen. Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to the ULC Forum! We're ever so glad that you decided to join us and we look forward to hearing about your particular Spiritual Journey. We hope you'll share your thoughts on whichever path you have chosen. Blessings of Peace, Al
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No doubt the Gospels of Mary and Thomas are favorites, but the one that has always fascinated me, in an inquisitive manner, is the Pistis Sophia. I've often wondered if this may not have been, at least in part, some of the inspiration behind the Book of Urantia. The numerous descriptions of the hierarchy of the "Heavens", "Mysteries" and "Lights" seems to sort of go hand in hand with similar descriptions in Urantia. If one book has/had nothing to do with the other, then it is quite possible the inspiration for both did come from some cosmic or Divine level. Since it appears to be a combination of latter Hellenistic paganism and early Christian teachings, referred to by scholars and writers of the 3rd -6th century CE, the origins of the text is unknown. The original work was obviously Scribed by two different hands of which one compares to a late last century BCE scribe. Taking all this into consideration, it is the mysteries around this text that intrigue me the most and I feel is a fine example of the changing times during and after the historical era of the Christ. Once again I have to thank Sacred Texts (link above) for making this available to us floundering 21st century inquisitive minds. Blessings of Peace,
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Welcome to our family of friends. We're glad you could joins us! Regardless if you are well established in a traditional religious path or struggling to find something less mainstream, we're sure you'll find what you seek here. We are a “blended family” of all Beliefs, all Faiths and all manners of seeking Truth. We hope you'll share your views with us soon! Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our family of friends. We're glad you could joins us! Regardless if you are well established in a traditional religious path or struggling to find something less mainstream, we're sure you'll find what you seek here. We are a “blended family” of all Beliefs, all Faiths and all manners of seeking Truth. We hope you'll share your views with us soon! Blessings of Peace, Al
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Welcome to our family of friends. We're glad you could joins us! Regardless if you are well established in a traditional religious path or struggling to find something less mainstream, we're sure you'll find what you seek here. We are a “blended family” of all Beliefs, all Faiths and all manners of seeking Truth. We hope you'll share your views with us soon! Blessings of Peace, Al