Atwater Vitki

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  1. I do agree with you about the language as it does not add to the credibility of the author...buuuut.... The article does reflect numbers close to what my neighbor (who works at the Dept. of Human Services) says about the condition of clientèle. And even at risk of losing her job has continuously reported to her supervisors that...people are stuck in the system....because it's like everything else in the democratic system, it either is or it isn't. The biggest thing to overcome being on Welfare is one day you have a minimal income but you have dang near 100% health care for your kids, which is how 99% of recipients qualify in the first place, and then poof, if you get off the system you don't have jack squat that day. Assassin, I agree with you very much on your statement: "but the majority of people getting support are people lying to the system or just lazy" But why do they lie? (Yes 'why' is an important part of it!) It's human nature to "get away with" as much as we can so if incomes or other false reports are put down by the recipient it is the Case Worker's job to verify all info put down by the applicant..."how the applicant acts at our intake interview determines how we follow up...I have over 760 case files on my desk and only 7½ hours per day to deal with that stack..do the math!...my neighbor. My neighbor is 58 years old and looks 78 due to the stresses of her occupation as a case worker for the welfare department...she heroically thought "she could make a difference" in 1984 when she started there. She's a decent, hardworking honest person while at home and attending Neighbor Meetings, at work..??...she'd either have lost her job or been thrown in jail for some of the on the spot decisions she's made on case-files..it's the part of the job that is never discussed, never put into the job title description or asked about at the employment intake interview. Her "solution" is people should be eased off welfare instead of just dropped. If people had a transition period of 6months to a year to make sense of and evaluate their real insurance needs, adjusted income etc etc far more would be willing to get off the system. The bottom line is the system is no more perfect than the people working or applying for benefits within it. It is a system created by energetic forward thinking folks in the late 40's and early 50's and as far as "overhauls" go, there been a few feeble attempts over the years to fix a few minor cracks in a dam that has been hit by a dam buster bomb of massive unemployed, underemployed and selfish deviates...in essence there are more cracks than there is dam holding back the flood waters of social change. For any one of us to say we have the "answer" is absurd, but we can all work together towards a better future one case file at a time. $30k a year to administer 760 case files? ...frankly I don't know how the system snookers people to work for it beside great medical and dental, great parking spots and many positions offer a work car...but overall...it would be difficult to get many BA's and BS degrees, let alone the Master's that many positions require...to work for the pittance (in today's world) of a mere $30k/year. Being ON Welfare isn't easy, overseeing the case load isn't easy, being the governing part of the System isn't easy. So we all know what the struggles are and how helpless many people feel about changing the system. What most forget is...We either change it or become apathetic to the way things are. Since so few folks seem 'satisfied' what are the suggestions for helpful, adequate Change? Blessings of Peace,
  2. Welcome to the ULC forum. It is our sincerest wish you find topics and information useful to your personal search for Spiritual Truth, on whichever path that may be. We hope your time spent with us becomes a true investment in your Self. If you have any question at all, please, just ask! Any of the Moderators or Admins will happy to help. Blessings of Peace, Al

  3. Welcome to the ULC forum. It is our sincerest wish you find topics and information useful to your personal search for Spiritual Truth, on whichever path that may be. We hope your time spent with us becomes a true investment in your Self. If you have any question at all, please, just ask! Any of the Moderators or Admins will happy to help. Blessings of Peace, Al

  4. Welcome to the ULC forum. It is our sincerest wish you find topics and information useful to your personal search for Spiritual Truth, on whichever path that may be. We hope your time spent with us becomes a true investment in your Self. If you have any question at all, please, just ask! Any of the Moderators or Admins will happy to help. Blessings of Peace, Al

  5. Welcome to the ULC forum. It is our sincerest wish you find topics and information useful to your personal search for Spiritual Truth, on whichever path that may be. We hope your time spent with us becomes a true investment in your Self. If you have any question at all, please, just ask! Any of the Moderators or Admins will happy to help. Blessings of Peace, Al

  6. Welcome to the ULC forum. It is our sincerest wish you find topics and information useful to your personal search for Spiritual Truth, on whichever path that may be. We hope your time spent with us becomes a true investment in your Self. If you have any question at all, please, just ask! Any of the Moderators or Admins will happy to help. Blessings of Peace, Al

  7. Welcome to the ULC forum. It is our sincerest wish you find topics and information useful to your personal search for Spiritual Truth, on whichever path that may be. We hope your time spent with us becomes a true investment in your Self. If you have any question at all, please, just ask! Any of the Moderators or Admins will happy to help. Blessings of Peace, Al

  8. Welcome to the ULC forum. It is our sincerest wish you find topics and information useful to your personal search for Spiritual Truth, on whichever path that may be. We hope your time spent with us becomes a true investment in your Self. If you have any question at all, please, just ask! Any of the Moderators or Admins will happy to help. Blessings of Peace, Al

  9. Welcome to the ULC forum. It is our sincerest wish you find topics and information useful to your personal search for Spiritual Truth, on whichever path that may be. We hope your time spent with us becomes a true investment in your Self. If you have any question at all, please, just ask! Any of the Moderators or Admins will happy to help. Blessings of Peace, Al

  10. Welcome to the forum! We're pleased you decided to join our growing family of friends and ever so look forward to getting to know you. We're always happy to have new perspectives that give us all something to ponder. Blessings of Peace, Al

  11. Welcome to the forum! We're pleased you decided to join our growing family of friends and ever so look forward to getting to know you. We're always happy to have new perspectives that give us all something to ponder. Blessings of Peace, Al

  12. Welcome to the forum! We're pleased you decided to join our growing family of friends and ever so look forward to getting to know you. We're always happy to have new perspectives that give us all something to ponder. Blessings of Peace, Al

  13. Welcome to the forum! We're pleased you decided to join our growing family of friends and ever so look forward to getting to know you. We're always happy to have new perspectives that give us all something to ponder. Blessings of Peace, Al

  14. Welcome to our little family of friends here at the forum! I hope you will give us the opportunity to get to know you better and look forward to your contributions to the many discussions. It's always a pleasure to meet new people, thus new perspectives and new ideals to throw in the mix. Blessings of Peace, Al

  15. Welcome to our little family of friends here at the forum! I hope you will give us the opportunity to get to know you better and look forward to your contributions to the many discussions. It's always a pleasure to meet new people, thus new perspectives and new ideals to throw in the mix. Blessings of Peace, Al

  16. Welcome to our little family of friends here at the forum! I hope you will give us the opportunity to get to know you better and look forward to your contributions to the many discussions. It's always a pleasure to meet new people, thus new perspectives and new ideals to throw in the mix. Blessings of Peace, Al

  17. I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al

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  21. I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al

  22. I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al

  23. I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al

  24. I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al

  25. I'd like to take this opportunity to Welcome you to the forum! Thank you for joining and I hope you'll find our little Family of Friends to be a place you come home to on a regular basis. We always enjoy new perspectives and fresh ideas, so let's hear yours! Blessings of Peace, Al