Extraterrestrials

[Zequatanil]

Thank you Nestingwave- your insight is appreciated.

I believe exactly all that you have stated. All is much more complex that we can ever imagine and man has difficulty in letting old dogmas go . We are so attatched to the physical that we have a hard time in believing anything else, and getting beyond it. But it is becoming more and more apparent to many that life is far more complex than it appears and we are not the center of the universe, but a very important connected part to it. I think the turning point was what the Mayan calendar was telling us and we have taken a step up towards realizing this.

I have a question to you--Rob,- Recently I was reading, from a very enlightened source, that outside the oort cloud is the 4th dimension and that only a very small part of the universe is the 3rd. Most are 4 and 5. Any insight on this.

Thanks-blessings and peace,

Suzanne

Edited March 12, 2013 by Zequatanil

[nestingwave]

Thank you Nestingwave- your insight is appreciated.

And thank you Suzanne for your very kind words.

I have a question to you--Rob,- Recently I was reading, from a very enlightened source, that outside the oort cloud is the 4th dimension and that only a very small part of the universe is the 3rd. Most are 4 and 5. Any insight on this.

Thanks-blessings and peace,

Suzanne

No -- however -- as we all awaken from our long slumber of fortgetfulness -- and return to our once full consciousness -- we will all learn whatever we individually need to know for our chosen individual paths. We will finally become fully aware of 1) who we really are 2) what we are 3) why we came here and 4) where our real home is. It is where our heart is. And it draws us like a magnet.

The multi-sensory apparatus (far more than five) -- existing in our human bioforms -- allows us to perceive -- translate -- decode -- decipher -- interpret - and grok the energy patterns with which we individually interface through our vectored intention. In other words -- whatever we fervently and excitedly focus upon.

We earthlings are now going to step into our new (5D) reality. 4D is a short and compressed transition stage which many of us are already experiencing to some small extent.

This is what the so-called "shift" is all about.

Something entirely new (and hitherto completely unknown on this planet) is about to emerge in spite of the fact that the turmoil is increasing. It has to as the entire old paradigm disintegrates.

All who have been born upon earth during this time have made a decision to directly participate in this unique mission and have embarked upon a grand adventure of adventures by choosing to physically incarnate into this very difficult 3D earth-plane.

We have been engaged in a long and very important investigation -- a Divine Mission really -- an inquiry for which each and every one of us willingly and enthusiastically volunteered.

Our entire holographic plane of existence -- i.e. this virtual reality bubble which we refer to as "3D" -- is a very carefully designed and entirely unique (one-of-a-kind) cosmic investigation into the very nature of consciousness itself.

And this has been undertaken by us on behalf of all beings -- not just earth humans. That's why every eye in the Universe is upon planet earth right now.

Planet earth is not an insignificant tiny speck of dust out on the edge of a minor swirling Milky Way spiral in the vast ocean we call "space" -- as some continue to insist.

The purpose of this inquiry aligns fully with the Prime Universal Divine Purpose which is to uplift and further the perfection of every being in the entire Multiverse -- every dimension -- every density -- every world of time and space -- and even those etheric worlds of very high oscillation which are totally beyond time and space. All is fully interconnected. When one suffers -- all suffer. When one rejoices -- all rejoice.

Our mission is also a co-ordinated conference -- and is the inter- communication of many individual talents and perspectives in order to further uplift and perfect all Life and its many expressions. This aligns with the Ultimate Thought.

And too -- it has been of the most extreme importance -- and is driven -- empowered -- and very very carefully overseen by physical angels which (we refer to as ETs) in order to celebrate -- appreciate -- praise -- and clarify to all beings -- the very Universal Thought and Intention which I have been discussing.

Although -- at times -- it is very difficult for us to believe -- there are actually no "victims" here whatsoever.

The "evil" presence upon our world -- which the ancient gnostics called the " Hypostasis of the Archons" -- has also ultimately served the Prime Divine Purpose by acting as a strong catalyst to propel us even further towards a clearer and deeper understanding of the aforementioned Divine Purpose.

The selfish minons who serve the Archontic Control Structure (and continually inflict untold suffering upon other beings) haven't the slightest idea that their selfishness -- greed -- and violence is unexpectedly acting as a strong motivating catalyst to those who love peace -- justice -- and the Divine Intention.

Their selfishness totally blinds them -- no matter how "intelligent" they may appear to be. Although their only outward motive is to wield force in order to acquire resources and gain power over other beings -- their actions are ultimately only working against them -- and for our overall mission.

We all (each and every one of us) originally volunteered for this long excursion into the artificially induced forgetfulness about who and what we are -- where we came from -- and why we are here. We have been told that this is the way evolution works. No -- this is the way de-evolution works. We have been lied to.

We originally volunteered to take the plunge into dark forgetfulness and experience a carefully observed process of re-awakening (with angelic oversight) which is forever recorded and documented in earth's Akashic record. There -- it can be accessed by any being who wants to better understand this dawning of consciousness from our long dark night of almost total amnesia -- with a little help from our ET friends of course -- but -- with a bare minimum of direct intervention. This is in order to not interfere with the process of our own discovery.

But -- as this Divine Mission now shuts down -- having achieved an amount of success never expected -- the direct intervention will continually increase. This is because it is essential for our re-orientation into the New Earth. (5D)

The ones who elected not to incarnate here are our space-family -- who chose not to participate personally in the "field work" of this inquiry which uses 3D as the "setting" -- as we did -- but instead -- they chose to watch over this investigation and protect us with their utmost care -- as we carry out the "field work."

All of us will soon become aware of this.

You see -- in reality -- we are just like "them" -- in fact -- we ARE them in the Universal oneness -- but -- we are all specialists in our individual "departments."

Mine is "communications."

The results of this inquiry -- which has gone on now for thousands of years and is now finally drawing to a close -- are now beginning to manifest.

The "Divine Mission" we undertook long ago is now reaching its final conclusion.

The ancients called that final conclusion "the end of days" because all the time-lines collapse into one singularity -- one time-line -- earth's "golden age."

That is now totally inevitable because a sufficient number of us are all yearning -- reaching -- and vectoring our intentions upon it with a strong vision of the better way.

Our innermost being fully knows that it is the only right place for us to be -- and the only right thing for us to do.

And once we fully self-interface with our already existing core intention -- all the things we have waited for and longed for -- will fully manifest for the highest possible good of all concerned.

namaste

[Zequatanil]

Namaste Rob-

Thank you for your kind detailed explanation and knowledge- I believe asI feel it to be true,I am sure we shall know soon for the time is near.Perhaps it is upon us as you perceive.

blessings and peace,

Suzanne

[RevDrRed]

Does the "New Age" thinking of extraterrestrials fit in --or have a place within your idea of "faith/God/Source". Like Sirians, Acturians, Lyrans, Pleiadians or from other star systems--Also the one`s from Rigel, Bellatrix, Betelgeuse, Alderbaran and the other so called origins of Reptoids, well if you believe that they actually exist. Or does it conflict with your/faith "religion"?

Do you believe? Accept their existance? Or not at all?

I do believe in the existance of ET's. Due to such i have been met with much criticism from the mainstream Christian world. Info on my beliefs (and Biblical evidence) of ET's can be found on my ministries "Aliens and UFO's" page.

http://spiritualmessiahministries.wordpress.com/about/spiritual-messiah-christianitymessianic-spirituality/aliens-and-ufos/

[RevDrRed]

Via reading through comments, it appears as though some of you are familiar with the Urantia Book.

[Samael]

Does the "New Age" thinking of extraterrestrials fit in --or have a place within your idea of "faith/God/Source". Like Sirians, Acturians, Lyrans, Pleiadians or from other star systems--Also the one`s from Rigel, Bellatrix, Betelgeuse, Alderbaran and the other so called origins of Reptoids, well if you believe that they actually exist. Or does it conflict with your/faith "religion"?

Do you believe? Accept their existance? Or not at all?

It is not incompatible with my belief system. I prefer the terms angels, demons, and gods when describing multidimensional entities, but the term extraterrestrials is not incorrect. I consider myself an angelic/demonic entity in a human incarnation. I would not find it implausible that there are other multidimensional beings (incarnate as humans) who may be of extraterrestrial origin. The main distinction I would make between myself and them is that I did not originate on any particular planet or other physical location in the universe, but from a nonphysical dimension, be it called Heaven or Hell. (This is my first fleshly incarnation anywhere. I have past "life" memories of existing with others like myself in angelic/demonic form in this other dimension. After I am done here, I shall once again assume angelic/demonic form and have no plans for further physical incarnations. Walking instead of flying or teleporting, catching colds, and the physical aging process leave much to be desired .)

[Zequatanil]

I quite like your explantion and reason for non-return. I too shall consider such actions. --well if it is possible for me.

blessings and peace,

Suzanne

[Atwater Vitki]

We all (each and every one of us) originally volunteered for this long excursion into the artificially induced forgetfulness about who and what we are -- where we came from -- and why we are here. We have been told that this is the way evolution works. No -- this is the way de-evolution works. We have been lied to.

We originally volunteered to take the plunge into dark forgetfulness and experience a carefully observed process of re-awakening (with angelic oversight) which is forever recorded and documented in earth's Akashic record. There -- it can be accessed by any being who wants to better understand this dawning of consciousness from our long dark night of almost total amnesia -- with a little help from our ET friends of course -- but -- with a bare minimum of direct intervention. This is in order to not interfere with the process of our own discovery.

Nestingwave -

I know a couple years ago I approached this topic of the Akashic Records with you and even Bro. Sky as that time I had been experiencing some rather intense OBE's during deep meditation. I've have attempted several times to "return" there but to no avail. To be honest, meditation has been less than cooperative this past year as I never seem to get anywhere near the deep "float" I once was able to obtain at will.

There have been a number of authors that breach this subject and some, like David Icke say some people are destine to bring these events into reality while others get just enough of a glimpse to support those whose mission it is to bring things into conscious Awareness.

Now, if I subscribe to that, then I was shown a glimpse of the Akashic Library, only to support the real movers and shakers...okay fine, no problem, I can handle that well as I have no need for being in the spotlight or the "One" who brings the mass into Awareness.

Any thoughts on that? Do you agree with Icke or do you think we are each responsible for our own path of revealing enlightenment? Or do all of our "parts" somehow create a different "whole"?

Thanks,

Blessings of Peace,

[Samael]

I hesitate to assume the role of persuading anyone into rebellion, (mainly because that is what I am expected to do ), but if angels can rebel against the status quo in Heaven, then I think an adherent of New Age philosophy can excercise her free will to break the cycle of reincarnation. Just tell the Lords of Karma that the Devil made you do it . BTW, thanks for posting this topic. I believe there are multiple paths and probably multiple destinations. My Heaven/Hell dimension is just one of many such places. There are other dimensions that certainly could be populated by noncorporeal,multidimensional extraterrestrials. I have encountered other spiritual entities traversing the astral who I initially thought were angels/demons but who were something entirely different, perhaps the extraterrestrials in your post .

[Reverse Blades]

hey every one an d hows it going? ther are ets on this planet already. i know i work with at least 2 of them - short, grayish blue skin, bald an saggie big eyes! ha-ha thats my boss and hes almost 80 yrs old - or at lest seem like it.

all jokes aside tho- my gal- now my wife as we got married last weekend- saw a craft when we were on one our first dates that we know wasnt one of ours. if it was then the y havent told us about the round disk shape silver color craft with ultra brite lites off each side that could hover and then speed off at moch speed without creating a sonic boom. it was less than a half km from us at about 600m in the sky. it hovered for a good 2-3 minutes and the pictures we got only showed the lights like the rest of it was invisible. strange very strange and spooked all of us in the group of 6 of us.

i believe they have been here a long time and are just waiting until we grow up enough to make formal contact. if they had bad intentions wed know it by now and why we think they are waiting. right now i dpnt think they want much to do with us as most peeps are so imature.

sorrry to have been gone for so long but the winter job took us to palmer alaska this year and then we got back 2 week ago for our wedding which our friend did the ceremony for us at niagra falls very nice and we have had agreat time thru the whol e thing.

[nestingwave]

namaste

[nestingwave]

Nestingwave -

I know a couple years ago I approached this topic of the Akashic Records with you and even Bro. Sky as that time I had been experiencing some rather intense OBE's during deep meditation. I've have attempted several times to "return" there but to no avail. To be honest, meditation has been less than cooperative this past year as I never seem to get anywhere near the deep "float" I once was able to obtain at will.

There have been a number of authors that breach this subject and some, like David Icke say some people are destine to bring these events into reality while others get just enough of a glimpse to support those whose mission it is to bring things into conscious Awareness.

Now, if I subscribe to that, then I was shown a glimpse of the Akashic Library, only to support the real movers and shakers...okay fine, no problem, I can handle that well as I have no need for being in the spotlight or the "One" who brings the mass into Awareness.

Any thoughts on that? Do you agree with Icke or do you think we are each responsible for our own path of revealing enlightenment? Or do all of our "parts" somehow create a different "whole"?

Thanks,

Blessings of Peace,

Hello brother At-The-Water.

David Icke has a particular point-of-view which is due to his individual unique life experiences -- just as we all do. A part of it, of course, is how he has put together that which he has heard from other researchers and read in their books. He is a scholar in that respect.

Are his interpretation without bias? Of course not.

Yes --the mission he has chosen is to shed light on many things. Thousands of others are doing the same thing in these days -- each in their own individual way -- as this world emerges from its long night of darkness. In my view -- none of the "messengers" are dependent upon either your or my "support." Of course -- whatever we do -- no "gurus" or "ET priests." heheheh.

Of course -- if out of appreciation someone wishes (or is able) to send him a check, I'm sure that is a blessing to him -- but no one should feel obligated to send such messengers anything since the important message is NOT coming from them -- but is being conveyed (transmitted) through him and has to pass through the media of his own limited concepts.

This is true of course, of all such people with an "eye opening" message concerning the New Paradigm. Supporting the basic ET message does not mean supporting every word that Icke or Greer or Richard Dolan or anyone else says. After all -- whatever they say is from their own narrow viewpoint. The ETs want each of us to find out things directly -- not by heresay nor by someone else's interpretation. That is certainly not to diminish such a variety of experiences from so many different people.

Plus -- David Icke is angry and outraged at having been deceived and ripped off by theives -- murderers -- and criminals posing as the world's PTB. This is something all of us who make these discoveries experience, eh? This is one of the main items which we must reconcile because 1) it does not help our understanding of the situation, 2) it raises our bloodpressure 3) it causes us to immediately play an "us" and "them" game which does not even exist and 4) we fail to understand what is really going on. The evil PTBs are a necessary part of the catalyst to drive us into a much better way and -- we fully allowed them through our complacency and moral ambiguity.

The message of ET contact is far too big for any one person to understand anything but a very small aspect -- and that's why the ETs themselves are spreading information far and wide through many different people who have had direct contact with them and recall it

The people's of the world "get" the revelation as they are ready and prepared to "get" it -- according to how ready they are to receive what -- and folks like David Icke help. But -- each of these messengers only have a very small and limited portion of the overall picture which is absolutely huge beyond comprehension.

namaste

[Atwater Vitki]

Hello brother At-The-Water.

David Icke has a particular point-of-view which is due to his individual unique life experiences -- just as we all do. A part of it, of course, is how he has put together that which he has heard from other researchers and read in their books. He is a scholar in that respect.

Are his interpretation without bias? Of course not.

Yes --the mission he has chosen is to shed light on many things. Thousands of others are doing the same thing in these days -- each in their own individual way -- as this world emerges from its long night of darkness. In my view -- none of the "messengers" are dependent upon either your or my "support." Of course -- whatever we do -- no "gurus" or "ET priests." heheheh.

Of course -- if out of appreciation someone wishes (or is able) to send him a check, I'm sure that is a blessing to him -- but no one should feel obligated to send such messengers anything since the important message is NOT coming from them -- but is being conveyed (transmitted) through him and has to pass through the media of his own limited concepts.

This is true of course, of all such people with an "eye opening" message concerning the New Paradigm. Supporting the basic ET message does not mean supporting every word that Icke or Greer or Richard Dolan or anyone else says. After all -- whatever they say is from their own narrow viewpoint. The ETs want each of us to find out things directly -- not by heresay nor by someone else's interpretation. That is certainly not to diminish such a variety of experiences from so many different people.

Plus -- David Icke is angry and outraged at having been deceived and ripped off by theives -- murderers -- and criminals posing as the world's PTB. This is something all of us who make these discoveries experience, eh? This is one of the main items which we must reconcile because 1) it does not help our understanding of the situation, 2) it raises our bloodpressure 3) it causes us to immediately play an "us" and "them" game which does not even exist and 4) we fail to understand what is really going on. The evil PTBs are a necessary part of the catalyst to drive us into a much better way and -- we fully allowed them through our complacency and moral ambiguity.

The message of ET contact is far too big for any one person to understand anything but a very small aspect -- and that's why the ETs themselves are spreading information far and wide through many different people who have had direct contact with them and recall it

The people's of the world "get" the revelation as they are ready and prepared to "get" it -- according to how ready they are to receive what -- and folks like David Icke help. But -- each of these messengers only have a very small and limited portion of the overall picture which is absolutely huge beyond comprehension.

namaste

PTB's?? Politico's Talking Bull? Public Thugs and Batterers? Police and Tyrannical Bullies? Psychotic Transmutated Beings?

I totally agree about Icke, Greer, Dolan et al as we should each decipher our own tidbit of info. However, why would this glimpse of the Akashic Record come to me and then go completely blank, dead airwaves, gone from a consorted effort to regain contact with it?

It has been perplexing to say the least, frustrating as Hades to scream about it!

Perhaps I simply put too much into it, , but I genuinely felt I was being given a "sign" back then, something important and revealing.

I've never felt so empowered with purpose as during those meditations taking me to the Akashic Hall and seeing my book upon the shelf! I truly feel a bit kicked to the side so to speak since being cut off from that message......and I have tried, really tried to reconnect!

Blessings Be,

PS: On a side note...Blades, great to hear the wonderful news! WoW! Niagra Falls? Private secluded cabin? What a joyous experience for you and Beth, eh? So cool to hear about your friend doing your ceremony too, what a blessing to have such a loving friend...and hey, after what? 10, 12, 15 years you two together? About time me friend! Warmest wishes of a Blessed life together to both of you...and Courage too!

[nestingwave]

PTB's?? Politico's Talking Bull? Public Thugs and Batterers? Police and Tyrannical Bullies? Psychotic Transmutated Beings?

hehehe -- all of the above -- and more! Simple recognition of that fact -- and the reasons behind it -- are a great step forward.

I totally agree about Icke, Greer, Dolan et al as we should each decipher our own tidbit of info. However, why would this glimpse of the Akashic Record come to me and then go completely blank, dead airwaves, gone from a consorted effort to regain contact with it?

Because -- for now we know only in part. Conserted efforts can sometimes be counterproductive. Just -- letting go -- and taking it as it comes seems to work better. I think we will know whatever we need to know.

It does take a lot of patience -- and faith.

namaste

[Atwater Vitki]

Powers That Be? huh. That was a big that hit me shortly after posting....been very distracted with this stoopid hip/knee last couple of weeks & sciatica...not even keeping my game up in Scrabble as wife has been beating the pants off me...and...er...I'll just let that be at that!

But yes, indeed, I do hear you on the letting go and being satisfied with what we are given.

Blessings of Peace, Truth and Understanding,