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I seem to remember some minister having a heart attack while watching passion of the christ. Which is gorier and more detailed then alot of horror movies I've seen

I believe that is a very good description of an agnostic Q. Very well put. I'm glad you got the joke though

I almost forget my old apellation sometimes myself koki. Sometimes the need to change a name or title arises. I also forgot that some people took a play on words as my actual name lol. Viq Sin or Viqtor Sin as I used to be known if you put it together and say it phonetically you get vixen. Not many people ever figured that out. In case anyone is wondering my name is Robert Yes it has been quite awhile now and I'll never tell. Thanks koki. Nah they are just the people who look down the path, shrug, and then stay where they are That he does No need to apologize if you haven't done anything wrong. All threads eventually die or change direction at one point.

Thank you for the extremely kind words and advice mark. I always make sure to read your posts and miss you when your not here for awhile. That is one of my favorite Buddha teachings and I know from the past it is one of yours as well. The greatest teaching of the buddha imo and perhaps my favorite is this. Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. ~Buddha

And so it begins

Thanks rev. A truly inspiring and thoughtful post. I read the section you were talking about and something caught my eye I thought you would appreciate. Exo 33:14 And he said, "My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest." I've got to go to work but you have a good day

Thank you for the praise rev. I'm not so sure I deserve it I'll return the favor by saying since you've been here you have been an inspiration and an example for me and I am sure others also. I am comfortable with the title of deist because it frees me of having any set belief system beyond a creator and what I determine with my god given reason. It helps keep others from assuming they know exactly what I believe by what I am called. It is also the only term that accurately matches how I view the creator and his creation that I also identify with. I "found" God when I was 20 ft up in a tree, just after sunrise, next to a babbling brook. Surrounded by his creation and several squirrels running through the leaves. Not in the bible or in a church. So while I am a Son of God as we are all children of God I don't necessarily feel the need, led to call, or to accept that as "my title" right now. I always have had a deist outlook and felt a connection/led to it. I even thought at one point of calling myself a christian deist. I really don't like hyphenating words so to speak though especially what can be considered contradictory terms. The time may come for me to shed this title as well but know that either way, or whatever I am called, I am what I am also. I am glad that you have had such a personal revelation though on account of this thread. I wish you well and hope for all the best Thank you brother and may you continue to be such an inspiration to us

The goal is the same and I don't plan on changing how I live my life as I am on a very good track right now. I have no need to change course right now. In the future I might have too but I will take that as it comes and when it is needed. How I view my life however has significantly changed now and over the years. It is continuing to change but I still want the same destination so to speak. I hope that clears that up for you. I left my answer a little vague to see what you would take from it. It was a very good and thought provoking question doggie.

I'm glad and I knew you'd understand. lol. Must have been hilariously awkward. I'll have to check it out. Thanks brother. I'm glad you approve. Think about it Your welcome and thank you rev. You too himitsuko. No need to apologize I did not think you were looking for a debate merely trying to avoid this thread being taken over by one. It was not you specifically I had in mind when I said that.

Thank you Robin. As you know I am just a pm away Thank you my friend but I don't need hunter Lewis to tell me what he thinks Jesus said. Thank you for the suggestion though I do appreciate it. this is not a matter of the flesh and I seek noone because god is with me as he is with you brother Thank you. i will return the favor because I think we all need some prayers now and again. It was no problem Robin glad I could help. I have and here is a sample of what I found. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother will be liable to judgment; whoever insults his brother will be liable to the council; and whoever says, 'You fool!' will be liable to the hell of fire. So if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, leave your gift there before the altar and go. First be reconciled to your brother, and then come and offer your gift. On the subject of homosexuality Jesus seems to be silent. I guess he figured he had already covered it elsewhere. However i don't want to turn this into a debate about such as i have seen enough of those over the years. and it is off topic as it was merely one example of many possible ones that I gave. The destination has not changed merely the route. Good question though doggie.

Been riling them up again have you luke. I think your just a little too open minded sometimes for some people (It's been so long I almost forgot my former handle lol) That is exactly what I have done. Jesus has shown me the Father/Creator and how to live a good life full of God's light and love. I do not need to be a "christian" to do so. I just need to love God and let him guide me. Jesus didn't teach christianity Jesus taught about God."Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?" And he said to him, "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets." This is what I have decided to do. I still study the Gospels. I study Apocrypha too. I recommend checking out the Book of Enoch luke you would like it. I also have been studying the Bhagavad Gita and the Tao te Ching. After I am content with those I plan to study the teachings of Buddha again for a spell and maybe some more hindu stuff. However don't think because I study other things I am discarding the teachings of Jesus or that I am not still his disciple. One does not need to be a bible believing christian to be so. That is exactly where I am at. Well I would say that I have gotten back to just Vic and God. But do not think that I am leaving Jesus behind. Far from it. This doesn't suprise me you have always been well read and inquisitive. It is one of the things I have always admired about you. I've know quite a few christians who would never do such a thing for fear it would "lead them astray" It is one of those things that you cannot compare for it holds its own truth. It does not mean it is the only truth brother.The problem is luke that you (and also robin) seem to be under the impression that unless I believe exactly as you do then I am and will be wrong. This simply is not true. Fear not for when the time comes for us to leave this place I am sure we will meet again. whether or not I am a "christian" I agree. I am glad you no longer argue it. However this is not the "deciding factor" as it were in my spiritual evolution merely an example I gave. I have done just that. I am letting Jesus simply be Jesus and I am following and giving myself over to the Almighty. It is the mythologizing of Jesus that was the hindrance. Not at all my brother. Been there done that so to speak. This is where I plan to stay This is exactly what I have been doing. Now I am heading on the path that God has shown me. I have let go of the baggage of christianity and I am now in his hands. I am not looking for anything in deism. I am simply a Deist. I am one with the Creator and I don't need any book to tell me what he has already said himself. Look around you luke and know that God is All and that he is Love. Always brother and I thank you for your prayers

I appreciate the sentiment LO. However Cool is just trying to help an old friend(me ) out. This is something that should be encouraged and not discouraged. Thank you. Cool my brother. I have to get ready for work right now and I will answer your post later when I have more time to give it the consideration it deserves. Thank you for your concern and it's good to see you again.

Thank you all for your kind words and wisdom

I'm writing this today in an effort to share my personal thoughts and beliefs. Something which I rarely do except with those close to me. It has been suggested on here that if one does not fully believe in the bible and the christian dogma then one is not a christian. Personally I believe that if one identifies oneself as a christian then they are regardless of what others think. I however have taken this into consideration recently. For a while I have been doing some in depth soul searching and study, I have gone where God has led me and I believe he is leading me in new directions. There are things in the christian faith, dogma, and in the bible that I cannot reconcile with my personal beliefs and reason. I cannot reconcile the hatred, jealousy, and vanity of the God in the bible with how I view my God. As I have said before My God cannot be limited or contained in one book. Yet I see the truth of my God reflected in the teachings of Jesus. However I also see such truth reflected in the teaching of Buddha, Krishna, Lao tzu, and others. I don't believe God will condemn others to eternal suffering for merely not believing the bible. I also don't think he would condemn homosexuals for being what he made them or love them any less then he loves us. I see god reflected in others here that follow the christian path but I also see him reflected on here by those who don't. I also don't think he would choose one people on this earth over others. While I view Jesus as my teacher and I think his message is eternal I just can't believe the mythos surrounding him. From interactions with christians on here and elsewhere I've found that I just don't believe the way they do or necessarily fit in at all with them. Another reason why I have always embraced the ULC is that it looks at who you are and not what you are. As God has led me to christianity I don't think he intends for me to stay there. I have learned immensely from it but I also don't view it as the only way. Therefore I have decided to follow God and god alone wherever he may lead me. Instead of trying to define God I'm going to let him tell me whom He is. I am shedding the christian label and am accepting another. One that does not define what I believe but reflects it. I am now simply a Deist. I will continue to learn from christs teachings and also continue learning from the teachings of others as I always have. However first and foremost I will let my God given reason tell me what is right and wrong and not a book written by men. Perhaps if we all chose to listen to god and look at how he reveals himself to us every day and stop looking for him in books but focus upon his great creation we would all be a little better off in the end. Perhaps not. We would all probably have a better understanding of one another at least. I just thought I would share for a change what I have been pondering and how my path has been going. I hope it may help shed light for others. I thought I would leave you with two little pearls of wisdom from my friend and mentor Brother Devon when I discussed this with him. We are not supposed to define God. God defines us. Allow yourself the gift of an open mind. God is not concerned with those who question. Only those who think they can define. Have a good day and God Bless.

Congrats ed

Sunday Sept. 21 on the National Geographic channel will be a special called the Neanderthal Code. recent evidence may disrupt the Out of Africa theory which claims we are not related to the neanderthal. http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/epis...evolving-view-4 More about the show and the rest of this article at this site.

Because the whole point is that you can't stop Skynet from being made. Like in the Third one(Which I really don't like btw) John Connor realizes you can't stop judgement day you can only stall it. In the trailer for T4 (Which I have high hopes for but expect to be disappointed in) John connor talks about how this isn't what his mother told him about. Because they changed the past so much that it altered the future alot. But no matter what Skynet will be made somehow and Judgement day will happen it's just when and how that you can change. Why do you people make me show how much of a geek I am I'm going to watch it in about ten minutes though. It's not a great show or anything but it's watchable and at least shows you more of the story.

Definitely some of the best. Voodoo child has one of the best intros ever and is one of my favorite songs. One of the best intros imo that I have heard in a while is the intro to The Bleeding by Five Finger Death Punch. It's pretty hard metal. I'm sorry. To be fair it's their softest song. As far as metal goes (Not a popular genre I know). One of my favorite intros has always been South of heaven by Slayer. Very dark and ominous intro. South of heaven Walk by Pantera has a very distinctive and hard hitting intro with one great solo(It's Dimebag can't go wrong). Walk Iron Maiden the Trooper. The Trooper Metallica Enter Sandman. Enter Sandman I don't remember seeing Mr. Crowley in the solo list. It should have been. Rhandy Rhodes was amazing. has a cool intro too. As far as blues. Devil Got my Woman by Skip James. Short but sweet intro. Devil got my woman There must be a better world by BB king and Dr. John. One of my favorite songs and great intro. There must be a better world Riding With The King by Eric Clapton and B.B. King. Riding with the king I might list some more with great solos later on.

I'm sure it was verbatim Cool story Fawzo.

According to one conspiracy theory its the UPC. http://www.rense.com/general20/666.htm

Try the Tao te Ching. It's a great read.

Simple man - Shinedown version. There must be a better world out there - by B.B. King and Dr. John. Lake of Fire - Nirvana version. Or just maybe. Iron Man - Black Sabbath.

No Gnosticism doesn;t have that cool logo Oh and glad to see you back thumper

I think I might have to change my vote.