Gnostic Bishop

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  1. War has many variables and causes of which religions are a major factor. I do not think, since the majority has always been on the religious side, that you can take religion out of any war. I will not bother to try to divide the Polytheists from the Monotheists. That is a lost cause considering that even Christianity came from a polytheistic root and that current beliefs are all over the map. Regards DL
  2. No. I guess that was your free willed choice. Right? I do not make a test that fails to prove my point. To your reply.. The past cannot be changed, true, but the future can be by your free will or the giving up of it. My little test proves that, in terms of your ability to give up your will to another. That would be me controlling your future with your cooperation. Regards DL
  3. Indeed. Your love of a genocidal son murdering God will keep you on the wrong moral path. Your God may not hate women but making them less than men is not a good indicator of love except to those of your immoral ilk. Gen 3; 16 Unto the woman He said: 'I will greatly multiply thy pain and thy travail; in pain thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. Both Christianity and Islam would make slaves of women if they could. Islam is basically there and Christianity is not thanks to secular power that curbed your foul ideology. Regards DL
  4. Correct, but you have to separate our myth, which were written to put against the Orthodox Church when we all knew that we were using myths as a tool to further discussions and debates. Only when literal Christian belief reared its ugly head did the wars break out. Please listen to this clip on how in the beginning, all knew that the Gods were just mysterious entities that could only be know by the laws that men ascribed to them. The second clip gives a bit of history of the satanic carnage that literal belief brought to the world. http://bigthink.com/videos/what-is-god-2-2 Please Google ---- Allen Watts On the Book The Book of Eli Gnostic Christianity insists on free thinking and tying ourselves to imaginary Monad, Demiurge, Archons, Aeons, and a Goddess Sophia is not what we do. Myths are just stories to bring us to understanding reality. Reality and natural systems like the one we live in do not include anything supernatural. If they did, we would all know it. Regards DL
  5. This has been the way for Christianity and Islam. If Christianity and Islam are poor examples, then we should look at the better ones that they have decimated. That is what I did and found that Gnostic Christianity had the best ideology to date. Some forms of Buddhism are close seconds. Both these last put people ahead of the imaginary Gods. Regards DL
  6. I do not particularly see monotheism as the cause of our religious strife. I see literal belief in myths as the main culprit. The religious kill for their imaginary Gods when they should only kill for the causes of men. Man is the supreme ruler here and not some absentee God. Regards DL
  7. Again you speak of evil deeds when I was speaking of good deeds. By your standards of evil, even Ghandi would end in hell as he does not accept Jesus as savior. By your standards, genocide and having your son needlessly murdered is good so I reject you as a source of morality. It is no wonder that you like your intolerant, homophobic and misogynous religion. Regards DL
  8. No one denies cause and effect but that does not negate free choice limited by nature and physics. Try that little test I gave in the post just above and your free will is undeniable. Regards DL
  9. I have a proof that you have a free will. Just a quick test. Logic says that if you have a free will, you can give it up to me. Choose to reply to this post beginning with the letter "I" and that will prove to me that you have given up your free will to me, by granting my request and choice of how you begin your next answer. Regards DL
  10. ??? We were talking about good deeds being done and ignored, even punished by your genocidal son murdering God. Why do you show a bad deed? Regards DL
  11. Gnostic Christianity does not have such aspects and I think that assigning status to invisible absentee entities is a cop out to recognizing natural law and how it controls most, if not all of what we do. To me, to cry a supernatural wolf without showing the tracts or the ** is not a good thing and those who do believe in always saying the truth should recognize what they say of the Gods are lies. That is one of the things that bother me about priests, preachers and imams constantly lying to their sheeple about the supernatural. Regards DL
  12. I would say that cultural habit is a good way to class our need to invent or have Gods. I think that monotheism is likely the best way to try to look at God because then one can develop a singly ideology that can be expressed by that single mind. In a world of conflicting ideas, having an all encompassing single view is likely the best type of ideology. Sure, we all pick up drips and drabs to our ideology from many sources but must work them all into our one ideology. Christianity has a problem with this as they end with a genocidal God that is said to love all those he murders. That is why the Christian ideology is garbage. The same conflicted thinking applies to Islam. Regards DL
  13. A rather disgusting point of view that. It shows a God who rejects the good done by a person who just happens to believe in something other than your God. I would think that a good and moral person would reject such a God and seek one that gives credit where credit is due.. Regards DL
  14. Just can't get off of your scapegoat can you? It takes some kind of gullible and inflated ego to think that a God would die for you. Oops, God cannot die. Having another innocent person suffer for the wrongs you have done, --- so that you might escape responsibility for having done them, --- is immoral. As Ingersoll said; 'no man would be fit for heaven who would consent that an innocent person should suffer for his sin.' If you cannot understand that simple morality then you just show how your beliefs have corrupted your morality. Regards DL
  15. I hear you. If we are to have to spend eternity kissing someone's ***, it may as well be where we might get some of the same done to us. People spout on about eternity without ever having even an inkling about of thought of how boring such a time or place would be. You can only watch re-runs for a few thousand years before boredom would set in and souls would be looking hard to end their existence. Regards DL
  16. I hear you but not being a sheeple, I do not believe that some God who created me has also condemned me. If the option is to follow a genocidal son murderer and think him good, then I guess my honest revulsion of such a God has condemned me to hell if there is such a place. You bring the beer and I will bring the grub. Regards DL
  17. I cannot answer as to what I would do if I was a believer as I am not a sheeple. You are likely right though that if I was a believer, I would follow out of fear. I see, thanks to stories like this one in google--- Carlton Pearson: To Hell and Back (Part 1) --- that hate for all others not of their ilk also plays a major part. It seems that Christians like the idea of others ending in hell for not thinking as they do. Regards DL
  18. Faith based garbage that I will ignore. "Killing your children is not putting their welfare ahead of your own, its simply denying them life, and we can't save anyone by killing them." Christians put more value to life after death as it is eternal. Here you are saying that a life that will send most to hell is better than insuring heaven for our offspring. You show a twisted view of your duty as a parent, which is to insure the best possible end. This shows how little faith you really have in your genocidal son murdering God. Regards DL
  19. Now now. Don't forget that Christians have an immoral double standard of morality that they use to forgive their God for what they would soundly condemn a man for doing. Like the torture and murder of babies. They end with a do as I say God and not as I do. Regards DL
  20. That is likely where we are all headed given what your bible says about the narrow path to heaven. It seems that you would put your welfare ahead of your children's. Strange that you can think that you would enjoy heaven while having to watch most of your friends and family burning in endless torment beneath you. I would die and would ignore hell for my children and it looks like you would not. What does that tell you of your ideology? Regards DL
  21. Indeed, and following that thinking, --- given that your scriptures say that the vast majority of us will take the wide road to hell instead of the narrow path to heaven, --- indicates that the moral thing to do would be for believers to kill their children as early as possible to insure they get to heaven. Right? Or do you think it more moral to let most of our children suffer hell instead of enjoying heaven? Is it a parents duty to insure the best possible end for their children? Regards DL
  22. A good question which cannot be properly answered as we cannot know anything about God. It does seem strange that God would allow such suffering as humans would not if we could stop it. Let me add to your question by asking theists why they think God causes the unjust suffering when he kills or tortures innocent babies and children in scriptures? Google this link below as it shows a few examples of this and pronounces the right verdict. PBS: God on Trial, the Verdict on Vimeo Regards DL
  23. This is also true of lies. Just look at all the harm that Christianity and Islam have propagated with all their lies about God. Regards DL
  24. I am the sum total of my beliefs. To attack my belief is to attack me. Beliefs cannot retaliate but I can. To try to separate a person from his belief is basically political correctness. To call a belief of mine immoral is to say that I am immoral. Regards DL
  25. I sure do. No personal offence meant but your view sure as hell ignores the Golden Rule. Your thinking might apply to benign beliefs but not to anything of moral importance. I E. Muslims believe creates actions and justification to think that it is quite alright to marry off 9 year old girls to old men after they have FGM done to them. To not attack such immoral beliefs and practices, to my way of thinking, is to condone it. On the Christian side, do you see anything in these three links that might make you rethink the notion that you should let people believe whatever they like? African witches and Jesus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pr6gvtYrga8 Jesus Camp 1of 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LACyLTsH4ac Death to Gays. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyuKLyGUHNE Regards DL