Gnostic Bishop

Jesus said that the right way to pray was in private. Closet yourself is the term he used. Most people ignore that which shows just how well they follow their scapegoats advise. Regards DL

I think it is but we do not define the word God the same way. Regards DL

Ok. I find it useful to use against those who do give it authority. Do not translate that as me giving it authority, it has none, but it does have the odd bit of decent advice. Regards DL

You would be surprised how few testings need alteration once put on a moral graph. Once your ideology is pointed in the right direction it is hard to reverse but easily directed in small increments. Regards DL

Ah. I am all in for that. I call it seeking Gnosis. Regards DL

Are you saying that what you and I do a lot of as described in these, is wrong? Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. You do not see those as good advice? Regards DL

I put the Golden Rule as my number one guide because I have never found a better rule to live life by. That rule is also written as Harm/Care. Meaning how I should react to the harm or care that is directed to me. IOW, a reciprocity rule. I look at the issue at hand, apply my view of what I would like, all but one moral tenet I know are subjective, as you point out above, and go from there. Regards DL

All the Gods are created by the thinking and words of immoral men, by todays standards, and all the Gods must die by the thinking and words of moral men. Have you noticed that Yahweh and Jesus are not promoted by moral men here and that it is the immoral men here who sing his praises? I have. Regards DL

Logics, reason and the moral value of the tenet using the Golden Rule as my guide. This is how the ancients formed their arguments and I think it works quite well. http://www.pbs.org/moyers/journal/03132009/watch.html Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it." Please listen as to what is said about literal reading. "Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning." Even Christians are given that directive but as you can see from those here who say God is justified in his genocide of man and the murder of many innocents, they have not dared apply the Golden Rule to the actions of their genocidal God. Matt 7;12 So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets Regards DL

Sure, Gods genocide of mankind was natural. You are turning out to be just as big of a joke as Dan. Not surprising as you both follow an evil God while calling him good. It is no wonder that Yahweh has been called the God of the blind. Regards DL

So murdering a body is not killing in the spiritual sense. All murderers will love your words. And you call yourself religious. What a joke. Regards DL

If Yahweh was in my presence, I would love it as I have a bullet with his name on it. All decent moral men do as all decent moral men would be well justified in killing such a poor and immoral God. Regards DL

Absolutely. That is why this is in it. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. There is some wisdom in scriptures but most of it is lost on Christians because they do not know how to read or interpret it. That is not surprising as it is a consolidation of many older traditions. Regards DL

There is some wisdom in the bible if you read it the way a Gnostic Christian does. Some individuals find ways that are quite immoral and to not care enough to try to help them find a better and moral path is not to follow the golden rule. If you were on the wrong path, would you not want someone to point it out? Oh. Here is wisdom from your bible, and you can even read it literally. Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. Regards DL

I like this, but I hope you add in a bit of struggle against those who are directly doing evil, like most mainstream religions including Christianity and Islam do. For the evils of those homophobic and misogynous religion to grow, all good people need do is nothing. Regards DL

If all thought like Gnostic Christians as we do, Inquisitions and Jihads would never happen and the mainstream religions would not be the immoral constructs that they have become. Regards DL

Faithful? Jesus said that any that had real faith in him could do what he did and more. It seems that either he was lying or there has never been a true believer. Regards DL

Indeed. We should not worship what cannot help but be what they or it is. If we do that, we may as well worship all things and people because the world, and universe is always the best it can possibly be given all the conditions that brought all to this point in time. We are always living in the best of all possible worlds. Regards Buddy DL

That sounds like a life without purpose. What would you do for eternity? Regards DL

If you worship bible God, tell us what you find compelling about a God who kills when he could cure just as easily? To me, Yahweh is quite evil. Regards DL

Worship who or what? Regards DL

Why on earth would a person want to worship anything? Jesus preached to seek God, not become an idol worshiper. Whatever you worship is just a figment or construct of what you see as an ideal in your own mind. Why would you want to worship your own construct? The above is why we Gnostic Christians are perpetual seekers and even after my apotheosis, I set aside the God I found, as instructed by my God, and raise the bar of my expectations so as not to become an idol worshiper of the construct in my own head. Regards DL

Just two quick things. I disagree with you on the bible telling people not to judge. It does, as well as putting an onus on us to correct the evils we see as well as foolish beliefs. 1 Thessalonians 5:21 Test all things; hold fast what is good. Proverbs 3:12 For whom the Lord loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth. My second question is, why you, as a Christian, would follow a God who is demonstrably evil? He used genocide and always seems to take the satanic moral low ground and kills, when he could take the moral high ground and cure. He also chose to have Jesus murdered for our sins instead of just forgiving us some other way. Regards DL

Not to insult Christians, but when they asked for forgiveness of God, his answer was that we had to accept as good justice the punishment of the innocent instead of the guilty and use the death of an innocent Jesus to get into heaven. Rather a satanic doctrine wouldn't you say? Regards DL

That is likely because you have not bought into the false guilt that Christianity creates and uses to build up their coffers. People who know they do not need saving will not pay the indulgences that the church uses as a con to make people thing they are helping themselves out of hell, another Christian invention. Regards DL