Yael - HaMorit

In this day and age, if I were a religious organization, I would not entertain the idea of firearms beinig a part of the organization. Just too much can be taken in the wrong perception. I don't understand even why you have asked the question; are you trying to put together a summer church retreat for men? Were you thinking of some way of using the donated guns for the church retreat? For law enforcement, any organization that has an "armory" raises red flags. Another thing...your intentions may be honorable but what if someone in your organization begins to turn the motivation. Having lived in Central Texas and been around several Branch Davidians, most of them were very nice people but a few were really scarey. One Branch Davidian who always visited our synagogue (after the standoff with the government), told me that he was honestly shocked about the situation...said that it only took a few people to spoil the whole setup they had...said those few people are the ones who started the stockpiling and doomsday rhetoric that eventually raised the ire of authorities...said he chose to leave as things began to unravel. While this man remained christian messianic in his thinking, he was a kind soul but now for his remaining years, he will be on "the list" of interesting parties. I am inclined to agree with others here...better dispose of them via a legal means to raise funds for the church. Keeps you in good standing within the law. I do know there are organizations that collect guns, melt them down, and make farm equipment for third world countries. Watched a special about the group about 5 years ago so they may or may not be around anymore.

Semper Fi

Okay, TKolter...checked out your website about your new religion and find it honestly genuine...but can I spell check the site for you? One of the hallmarks of a valid scientific philosopher is the ability to present ideas in a rational (or fairly rational) scholarly manner. No scientist would take you seriously with so many errors.

This reads as though it might be for what you are looking. There is a Christian Counselor correspondence program for which I receive notices in the mail occasionally I will see if I can find one of those mailings if you are interested.

Hey Ed, can I have a belated "hand-clap" for my birthday yesterday? Hahahahaha!

You were in the Navy as a Corpsman? Just noted the Doc at the end of your profile name. I was a Marine Navy Corpsman...was at Camp Johnson there on Camp LeJeune for Field Medical Service School. You have a great opportunity to touch lives in a very unusual setting. What those young people need is our nonjudgmental support and a listening ear. I know that you are doing a great work.

Greetings, Ursula! I am a Professional Registered Nurse as well. Like you, I have often been in the position where the spiritual needs of the patient or their family far outwwighed the physical. Year ago I was ordained by an eclectic Ministerial Alliance in the Texas Bible Belt. The purpose was so that I could mee the needs of patients in my role as Parish/Congregational Nurse. I have since converted to Judaism but find my patients still have spiritual needs. Ordination through a nondenominational organization such as the ULC and UM only made sense. I have found my interaction with others through the ULC/UM has only opened my eyes and broadened my understanding. There are plenty of people out there who want someone to understand their personal religious beliefs without judgment...only compassion when they are at their greatest time of need. Through the ULC/UM, if I do not fit the bill for what they need, I am sure that I can find someone who is. Not everyone who comes to the hospital fall under the typical Texas/Bible Belt belief systems. Through the ULC/UM, I am truly able to "treat" the whole patient as a Registered Nurse. I hope to broaden the thinking of others as I continue my work.

Take it seriously they need you Both my sons are Marines and I was a Marine Navy Corpsman - Semper Fi

Out of curiosity, I went to your website then I looked up information about the drink that is used ritually in your rituals. I am glad that I did. As a healthcare professional, I need to know that the drink is mixed with an MAOI. If any of your members are admitted to a healthcare facility, I will know to be aware of special medicinal needs they may have since many foods and medications interact severely with MAOIs. I would be interested in working with you on formulating a an educational article for healthcare personnel about your beliefs. Would you be willing to help me?

Don't forget to mention my birthday today 5/19! I worked hard for it, you know. hahahahaha!

Be aware that you will have to keep VERY GOOD accounting books. Without it, you could risk losing your 501 3c status. In fact, the ULC-Modesto won a court case simply because they were able to show its books and its activities clearly to the court.

I remember things from age 2 years. However, your comment brings up an interesting question I would like to ask. I have considered regression therapy. Has anyone here ever experienced hynotic regression therapy and what was the experience like?

Wow! By reading this, I learned so much more about the activities of ULC-Modesto and I am proud to be involved with the organization to promote understanding among religious beliefs. It appears that the Hensleys were honest people trying to do an honest work. Everyone should read this court document and understand the impact it has on our daily practice to "do that which is right." Thank you so much for sharing this with us! Yael

Since you and I live in the DFW area, I will be more than happy to serve as your celebrant...seriously (We are also descended from Norsemen on my father's side of the family)