I'm going to jump in here real quick because you mentioned something like... It is an interesting consideration that the more advance one becomes on their path(s) the less one is expected to rely on thaumaturgy or low "manifestational magicks"; and instead to concentrate on the higher theurgical concepts that their paths profess. So absolutely are we expected to divest ourselves of the material desires to change the way that everything is, and instead to manifest those things as what they are, in their own place, appreciating them for everything that they confer upon us. What I wonder, however, is what you would consider being an "active ______"? What makes being that _______ any more evident, any more important, than your own humanity?