Jonathan H. B. Lobl

I'm still here. Current Events: I tried to visit the HQ website. ULCHQ.NET I get transferred to the Monastery. Does anybody know what is going on?

When I type in ulchq.net - I get transferred to the Monastery. Try it yourself. I find it disturbing. I would like to know what is happening to my church.

Happy New Year to you. What happened to the HQ website? It seems to have been taken over by the Monastery.

Happy New Year 2024. Is anyone there? Jonathan Lobl

People have been stupid, crazy and weird long before we got here. I really don't think this is anything new. Not even all that unusual. My memories are full of stupid stuff I've seen.

It's good to see that you're still around. For the rest, I have embraced Agnostic Apatheism. Despite the complete lack of evidence, Some version of God could possibly exist. I don't know and I don't worry about it. It's not important and it's not worth arguing about. Jonathan

Religion as comforting illusion? That makes sense. I have long since decided that it wasn't worth arguing about God. Even if some version of God possibly exists, it doesn't actually matter.

Yes. The same old arguments. Covid is no longer a hot topic. I'm sure nobody wants me to prattle on about Agnosticism. I'm still social. I don't feel like I have anything interesting to say. Jonathan

Good. It's nice knowing you're still around.

Hello. I'm still here. 😀

It's good to see you again. I have a social nature. I just don't have anything to say at the moment. Jonathan

Hello to you. 😀

Yes. I'm still around, though I've run out of things to discuss.

I don't know his work. I understand provable to mean information that is objective, verifiable and empirical.

Huxley invented the word AGNOSTIC. He said that God was unknown and unknowable. The opposite of provable. The meaning of Agnostic has degraded in common usage to being undecided. I think it's still a good word. That God cannot be proved or disproved.

I am not unsocial. I attend a senior center five days a week, schedule permitting. I teach a weekly qi gong class. There are ways to find community that have nothing to do with religion. No. Religion is not humanities only obstacle. If religion vanished today, humanity would still be a mess. It would be a different mess, but it would still be a mess. As for God. I am an Apatheist. I don't care whether or not God exist. I am persuaded that even the question is futile.

Of course religion is not, of itself, a pathology. You asked what will replace religion. Nothing will replace religion. We can come together, and nurtur each other, and do good with out religion. First, we must see that religion is not the only path forward. We can simply let it go. 🤔 A simple experiment. Point to yourself. Did you point to your brain? No. You pointed to your heart. You did that without religion. 😀

I have to ask. What do you mean by spiritual and spirituality?

We would not ask what to replace cancer. Sanity and humanity would replace religion.

What is the latest word?

Next. The story of the elephant and the butterfly. 😆

I agree. Putting great ideas into practice is the hard part. Perhaps you remember the Asehops fable about the cat and mice. The mice agreed that someone had to put a bell around the cat's neck. One old mouse said - "Yes. But who will bell the cat? Theory and practice. 😆 Jonathan

No. Also no children. This works out well because I never took a wife. I never found anyone I wanted to be married to. It's one of the few serious mistakes I managed to avoid. So many of my peers are on their second divorce. 😆🤣

A lot of topics are self limiting. The threads on Agnosticism and Atheism have been beaten to death. I doubt anyone has changed their opinion on vaccination or masking. Well, updates. I still have to mask up at my senior center and medical places. Otherwise, masking has largely passed. I had the new bivalent vaccine booster. Vaccine booster rates are low. Things are not quite normal. Or maybe they are. Jonathan 😀

I have a social nature but I have run out of things to say. Jonathan