SilverRose Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 That's fine we were great gamblers long before the Euros came along.yeah- the first "illegal immigration" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 That's fine we were great gamblers long before the Euros came along.How do you keep the spiritual/honorable names alive and not lose your proud heritage toinstitutionaizedl gambling casinos ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) A Blackfoot game-gambling with a small wheel called it-se'-wah. This wheel was about four inches in diameter, and had five spokes, on which were strung different-colored beads, made of bone or horn. A level, smooth piece of ground was selected, at each end of which was placed a log. At each end of the course were two men, who gambled against each other. A crowd always surrounded them, betting on the sides. The wheel was rolled along the course, and each man at the end whence it started, darted an arrow at it. The cast was made just before the wheel reached the log at the opposite end of the track, and points were counted according as the arrow passed between the spokes, or when the wheel, stopped by the log, was in contact with the arrow, the position and nearness of the different beads to the arrow representing a certain number of points. The player who first scored ten points won. It was a very difficult game, and one had to be very skilful to win.Little boys learned how to shoot their bow and arrows with a similar game. Edited November 2, 2007 by Theresa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 A popular Native game is/was what with more southern tribes is called "hands"; it is like "Button, button, who's got the button?" Yes it's still being played at pow-wows and such.Two small, oblong bones were used, one of which had a black ring around it. Those who participate in this game, numbering from two to a dozen, were divided into two equal parties, ranged on either side of the lodge. Wagers were made, each person betting with the one directly opposite him. Then a man took the bones, and, by skillfully moving his hands and changing the objects from one to the other, sought to make it impossible for the person opposite him to decide which hand held the marked one. Ten points were the game, counted by sticks, and the side which first got the number took the stakes. A song always accompanied this game, heard at a little distance, very pleasant and soothing. At first a scarcely audible murmur, like the gentle soughing of an evening breeze, it gradually increases in volume and reaches a very high pitch, sinks quickly to a low bass sound, rises and falls, and gradually dies away, to be repeated again. The person concealing the bones swayes his body, arms, and hands in time to the song, and goes through a manner of graceful and intricate movements for the purpose of confusing the guesser. In the past the stakes,were sometimes very high, two or three horses or more, and men have been known to lose everything they possessed, even to their clothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 2, 2007 Report Share Posted November 2, 2007 (edited) Men and boys played snow snake in long grooves made in the snow. The players would take a short run, then bend and flip the snake so it would race along the top of the ice or snow. Wagers were made on whose snake could travel the farthest. The snakes were made of polished hardwood sticks and ranged in size from two to eight feet in length...............................................................................................................This game, still being taught to Indian kids, even my older kids played this one when they were younger, in the past it was played by two groups of men. The players sat opposite each other on a blanket. Four moccasins were placed in a row between the two groups. One of the groups watched as a token or ball was hidden under one of the moccasins by the other group. The players made pretenses of hiding and removing the token in an effort to make it more difficult to discover the actual location of the token. The group watching then guessed under which moccasin the token had been hidden. The Ojibwa, Ho-Chunk, and Menominee used a "striking stick" to turn over the moccasin where they thought the token was hidden. If the player guessed the correct shoe, four points were scored while four points were subtracted if the wrong shoe was picked. Sticks or twigs were used to keep track of the score..................................................................................................................Just because something is wrong or sinful in one culture does not make it wrong or sinful in another.Eskimo women used to run around topless in the summer until the caucasians came, and decided it was an invitation to rape. Edited November 2, 2007 by Theresa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi Posted November 3, 2007 Report Share Posted November 3, 2007 (edited) Just because something is wrong or sinful in one culture does not make it wrong or sinful in another.Eskimo women used to run around topless in the summer until the caucasians came, and decided it was an invitation to rape.True, As a child I was never allowed to use playing cards, they were considered evil. As a teacher I found playing cards a valuable tool to teach math I'm trying to recall a chant that was part of a game similar to the bone game you described. Children sat in a circle and passed a stone around, the stone could change direction. Players would have their hands crossed at the wrist as they passed the stone around the circle, no one knew whohad the stone except the person passing it and the receiver. The chant started outsomething like this..Hey Naya hey Edited November 3, 2007 by chi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cornelius Posted November 4, 2007 Moderator Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 yeah- the first "illegal immigration"http://ulc.net/forum/index.php?s=&show...st&p=533173 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 http://ulc.net/forum/index.php?s=&show...st&p=533173My people were nomadic until the Euros came and put up borders. We traveled the entire circumpolar north and have grave sites in Alaska going back 20,000 years. How long has your family been here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cornelius Posted November 4, 2007 Moderator Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 My people were nomadic until the Euros came and put up borders. We traveled the entire circumpolar north and have grave sites in Alaska going back 20,000 years. How long has your family been here?I don't think I have any relatives in Alaska. Though I could be wrong I come from a big Irish family on my mothers side and have relatives all over the globe.As far as how long my family has been here. Well I'm assuming since the beginning whenever that was. Otherwise I don't think I would be here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuron Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 (edited) My people were nomadic until the Euros came and put up borders. We traveled the entire circumpolar north and have grave sites in Alaska going back 20,000 years. How long has your family been here?I don't live in Alaska, I live in Arizona, and the Athabaskan peoples didn't get here until about the same time as the "Euros", so I really don't see the relevance.I didn't realize that you were full-blooded though; that's cool. Edited November 4, 2007 by Samuron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 I don't live in Alaska, I live in Arizona, and the Athabaskan peoples didn't get here until about the same time as the "Euros", so I really don't see the relevance.I didn't realize that you were full-blooded though; that's cool.5/8But at least I know that we're not illegal immigrants like someone here implied. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderator Cornelius Posted November 4, 2007 Moderator Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 5/8But at least I know that we're not illegal immigrants like someone here implied.No need to be so discreet. When did I imply you were an illegal immigrant? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuron Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 My people were nomadic until the Euros came and put up borders.I didn't realize that you were full-blooded though; that's cool.5/8So, who were the other 3/8, if they weren't "Euros"? Or do you not consider the 3/8 "your people"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 I didn't realize that you were full-blooded though; that's cool.5/8So, who were the other 3/8, if they weren't "Euros"? Or do you not consider the 3/8 "your people"?Correct. Family is who raises you and supplies all the emotional support you need growing up. All I got from the European/American side was that in their opinion the KKK are the good guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 No need to be so discreet. When did I imply you were an illegal immigrant?Post number 27 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverRose Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Post number 27I missed that one.Thanks, T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theresa Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Click on the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Kuespert Posted November 4, 2007 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 No need to be so discreet. When did I imply you were an illegal immigrant?Post #27 was an implied post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 (edited) post #27 was another person's opinionnot Blackthorn's. There are many folks who do believe that the native American'swere not the first American's. There are many theories out there each have a valid point. The Arctic Tundra from Russia to Canada was believed to be where the nomadic people first traveled from. Edited November 4, 2007 by chi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuron Posted November 4, 2007 Report Share Posted November 4, 2007 Correct. Family is who raises you and supplies all the emotional support you need growing up. All I got from the European/American side was that in their opinion the KKK are the good guys.Then all you're doing is ignoring an undesirable part of your genetic heritage and aligning yourself with another that affords you a position of apparent superiority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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