kokigami Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 forgot to add. 12 monkeys.. Not an optimist. Just honest. For the survivors, Pandemics can be good things. they also gave us that ring around the rosie poem. I would suggest we make other precautions against over population.. like VHEM. But, as a pessimist, I suspect we will choose the less pleasant alternatives of war, famine and plague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_nick Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 For the survivors, Pandemics can be good things.That is how it is with nonhuman animals as well. Animals overbreed until predation, disease, and/or starvation culls their numbers. After which times are again bountiful until the breeding kicks back in and nature decides it is time to wash, rinse, and repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplicitys-brother Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 There is a way to reduce and/or control such experiments and that is through the tech of Ethics. Something good can always be measured by the benefit to the largest number of dynamics and something bad is the greatest harm to the largest number of dynamics.IF the researcher were ethical, there would be very tight controls placed by himself before such research started. Only a person wishing harm on lots of people would be involved in loose controls of such research. Only a mad man would ever release such on the population. It would be an act of insanity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crzyme Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 to make a weapon, virus, pandemic, germ, etc... with the potential to wipe out much of the human race has always been the fodder of those who wish to rule, control, punish, change, convert, kill, take over etc... it is the story line in books, movies, tv shows and the main though of humans who feel they are powerless, those who feel they have been harmed and gained rage and all those angry humans who want revenge, power, control. All the "bad guys" want to wipe out the "good guys" and the good guys want to wipe out the bad guys, thus the lines blur and it is impossible to tell one from the other (unless they have on their white or black hats).As to the correlation between lots of humans dying resulting in prosperity, I do believe that would prove to be apt as it has done so after things like plagues and wars, not at once but after the devastation is brought under control the population left would indeed prosper with less competition for resources (food, water, fuel, space etc..) but in the case of a current world wide termination of half the humans the species would likely benefit for only a very short term because as a group we would bounce back to full speed in short time as breeding would commence at once to replace the fallen (it is what we do) to have a chance at real devastation I would think a minimum of 80% would have to perish not 50% but that is my own view point likely yours will differ. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokigami Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 There is a way to reduce and/or control such experiments and that is through the tech of Ethics. Something good can always be measured by the benefit to the largest number of dynamics and something bad is the greatest harm to the largest number of dynamics.IF the researcher were ethical, there would be very tight controls placed by himself before such research started. Only a person wishing harm on lots of people would be involved in loose controls of such research. Only a mad man would ever release such on the population. It would be an act of insanity.Would not conform to capitalism.. What you are suggesting is teaching socialism.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simplicitys-brother Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 Would not conform to capitalism.. What you are suggesting is teaching socialism..No, once again you are trying to put your word into my processor.I want private education to give the data about Ethics. It is happeing in several places but needs to be more.Some examples are Delphi schools, Washburn Academy, among others.Socialism is working against society and is caused by the silliness of public education and the maunderings of Karl Marx. It has never been really understood by its adherents and thus is thought it must be really great since even you don't understand it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokigami Posted May 31, 2012 Report Share Posted May 31, 2012 No, once again you are trying to put your word into my processor.I want private education to give the data about Ethics. It is happeing in several places but needs to be more.Some examples are Delphi schools, Washburn Academy, among others.Socialism is working against society and is caused by the silliness of public education and the maunderings of Karl Marx. It has never been really understood by its adherents and thus is thought it must be really great since even you don't understand it.Explain what is ethical about not maximizing my profit margin, but instead surrendering profits for the good of society? Why do you support this indoctrination?Karl Marx is not the final word on socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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