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On 8/29/2023 at 11:05 PM, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
Religion as comforting illusion? That makes sense. I have long since decided that it wasn't worth arguing about God. Even if some version of God possibly exists, it doesn't actually matter.
Spot on. Either God is a myth, and doesn't affect us. Or he's real, and we don't affect him. Anything beyond our control isn't worth worrying about.
Been a minute. Thought I'd say hi 😊
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So it has authority from heaven because it says so? Who from heaven can currently confirm this authority? I mean outside of the source in question... outside of bias?
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On 3/8/2022 at 5:49 PM, Coolhand said:
It says "when the Holy Spirit comes upon you", "you will receive power"...."and be my witnesses". And you ask, "is power necessary?"
Yes, power is necessary; specifically ability and authority.
Those who seek power and authority should be watched carefully I think
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10 hours ago, Dan56 said:
I'm aware of that, but if you think that passage was describing an erratic episode of Jesus losing his temper over a fig tree not yielding fruit, your not reading with any degree of understanding. You have a habit of mocking what you don't comprehend.
No contradiction, everyone has morals to some degree, but believers have a foundation outside of themselves.. Is the death penalty wrong? Is homosexuality right? My answers would be rooted in what I believe, and not necessarily in what I personally think or my own moral standards. You no doubt would agree that murder is wrong, but that morality emanates from within your own judgement or what the government tells you. An atheist morals are not based on any foundation of truth outside of themselves.
Our foundation outside of ourselves is the process of logic. We're capable of reasoning out good morals and differentiating from bad ones, such as keeping slaves forever if they have kids with the spouse we provided
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On 3/2/2022 at 11:59 AM, Coolhand said:
For what?
Your quote? But you will receive power when... I asked if power was necessary.
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Is power necessary?
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On 10/26/2021 at 11:52 PM, Dan56 said:
Your belief is your belief, no one can invalidate that. I'm not Catholic or a witch, but its fine with me if it works for you and its your choice to mesh the two. My only point was that the 2 are contrary to each other, and I think if your consult a Catholic Priest, he would confirm it. Better yet, point me to a verse in the bible that condones witchcraft? "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch. Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee" (Deuteronomy 18: 10-12). This is why I doubt you'll find a Priest who will baptize a witch.. But good luck.
Hey Dan what time is it? Oh... you observed the time...darn...
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6 hours ago, Dan56 said:
"I'm a Christian witch".... No such thing? You can be one or the other, but not both... Its not likely that you'll find a Christian who will baptize a self-professed witch.
Yeah Dan is the authority on what is and isn't allowed
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On 8/29/2021 at 8:26 PM, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
I am a poor, miserable choice to be an advocate for the religious. Still, as the saying goes -- there comes a time when we must set aside our values and do what's right.
The manuals of mental disorder do not list religion or religious belief. No. Religious belief is not a form of mental illness. I shouldn't have to say this. History is filled with highly intelligent, brilliant minds that were -- are -- deeply religious. I've met a few of them. Being religious is not the same as being weak minded. For that matter, I used to be religious. I think my understanding of such things has improved. In truth, I'm not actually smarter than I was then.
We have such a small planet. We have to find ways to share it and live with each other. That includes living with disagreement.
You often remind me of Dr Jubal Harshaw from "stranger in a strange land". This is a good thing btw
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Have to download when I get home
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Got it. I'm slow about that sometimes. So...dont feed the troll
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On 8/10/2021 at 6:40 AM, mieshec said:
Matthew 25
31 "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory.32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.
34 "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'
37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'
40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'
41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'
44 "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'
45 "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."
And OH BOY!....WHAT AN INHERITANCE
and he made it so easy
no rules….no regulation….no laws
just believe in God
that’s all that’s required
just believe….and God will see
its to be….or not to be
God sees…..evrything
Lets start with this
As Gods kingdom ushers in paradise….FOREVER
God unfolds PERFECTION
to those….like myself…..
that just believe
and you will be………..with me
at the greatest party in ALL of eternity
when God wipes away the disgrace
that has kept us chained to hate
in a perversion of twisted shame
Isaiah 25
6 On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare
a feast of rich food for all peoples,
a banquet of aged wine--
the best of meats and the finest of wines.
7 On this mountain he will destroy
the shroud that enfolds all peoples,
the sheet that covers all nations; 8 he will swallow up death forever. The Sovereign Lord will wipe away the tears from all faces;
he will remove the disgrace of his people
from all the earth.
The Lord has spoken.9 In that day they will say,"Surely this is our God;
we trusted in him, and he saved us.
This is the Lord, we trusted in him;
let us rejoice and be glad in his salvation."IT ALL ABOUT THE PARTY
AND WHAT A PARTY IT WILL BE
Everyone is invited
All you have to do
………………………its just believe
Revelation 19
1 After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting:
"Hallelujah!
Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,
2 for true and just are his judgments. He has condemned the great prostitute
who corrupted the earth by her adulteries.
He has avenged on her the blood of his servants."3 And again they shouted:
"Hallelujah!
The smoke from her goes up for ever and ever."4 The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried:
"Amen, Hallelujah!"
5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying:
"Praise our God,
all you his servants,
you who fear him,
both small and great!"6 Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting:
"Hallelujah!
For our Lord God Almighty reigns.
7 Let us rejoice and be glad
and give him glory!
For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
and his bride has made herself ready.
8 Fine linen, bright and clean,
was given her to wear."(Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints.)
9 Then the angel said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!'" And he added, "These are the true words of God."
10 At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."
This is the crazy…..unimaginable
I will be…..among them
SHOUTING…..
with a multitude of unimaginable
numbers of people
JUST LIKE ME
and ….THIS….is all about me
this is going to be better than any rock concert
ive seen
how can you not believe?
an eternity of shame
torment…..for the rest of eternity
one answer…..just believe
ive spent a lifetime
over 55 years
it scared me when I was young
and it scares the hell out of me now
my life….i want to be
i want to be more than I am
i want to know how God created existence
WELL…..ive got the rest of eternity
im sure God will educate me
that what a Father does with his Son
open my eyes Lord
and let me see
notice the following verse
Revelation 21
1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
5 He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."
6 He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."
God will teach his children
this is the promise…ITS GODS PROMISE
UNDERSTAND THIS
NOTICE
something ive always understood and believed
what humans do…their ideas of
tear down the old
and build a new
but the rubbish in a pit
and walk away from it
this is satans world
this is where sin will be judged
and this is where sin will end
what sin has done….is apparent
man was given the option
JUST BELIEVE
2000 years without God
of freedom and choice
they’ve murdered Gods animals
and some animals are no longer with us
that’s freedom and choice for you
you know…..its the WOW factor
driving thru the Mt.Hood forest
I seen it…
before….THEY
chopped down the trees
crapped on the lawn
pssed in the streams
God says….he will make everything new
this is no exception
what God has done at the start
was perfect in its perfection
and man carelessly
selfishly
what about me
didnt mankind think that maybe
i wanted to fish the ocean
without millions of dead people
nuclear waste
and just the nasty sewage of humanity
Gods not going to undo
what mankind has done
God makes a New Heaven
A New Earth
Making Eternity Great Again
and beyond what one can believe
Revelation 22
1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."
you got one shot at this
beyond this… your sin remains
God made it easy
God took care of it personally
God paid your way
you live less than 100 years
and this…..is eternity
and all you have to do
just believe
in this wonderful God
the author of eternity
Words written by superstitious middle eastern men 2000 years ago should not be the basis of a life philosophy.
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20 hours ago, Dan56 said:
"For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20). God is not a science experiment, nor can science demonstrate God, let alone prove He exist. You can't verify a spiritual entity by physical observation or experimentation. God's existence is demonstrated by all that exist, of which science has no provable answer for. Science can't create anything, it can only discover what has always been here.I agree with your last 3 words
Your computer was created by science. Tell you what. You don't believe in anything not created by God? Do us a favor and stop using it
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I doubt your resolve. I live nowhere near by anyway and can't figure out what your really saying
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One of the greatest lies ever told was that we are born somehow wrong, in sin. It is a lie that has led not to peace or prosperity or enlightenment but rather to suppression, murder and suffering. The book containing this lie does espouse some truth. After all the best lie has a little truth to make it easier to swallow. The truth is you can judge by its fruit. What has been wrought from the tree of Christian beliefs and the bible? Certainly not love of everyone. Look at the proselytizers and how they are busy condemning every other belief. How much war and pain and evil has been wrought by those supporting this book of lies? We aren't inherently evil, but rather start with good in each of us. Don't surrender it to the lie.
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I know plenty of your mythology. You just don't appreciate that I have figured out it's not reality.
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Adoption of another culture's events certainly wouldn't be wrong if credit was given. However not only is credit lacking but the thieves deliberately meant to harm the original culture by demonizing and usurping them.
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22 hours ago, Dan56 said:
If you see no sin in the world, your blind.. If you don't think you have the ability to freely make decisions, your in denial.. If you think your condemned because of something Eve did 6000 years ago, your wrong.. If you don't believe salvation is a necessity, your lost.. And if you think religion is a racket, your 90% correct.. Nonsense is the insistence of accepting a lie because of an inability to discern the truth.
Truth in my view requires fact. Lack of evidence would suggest you have your statement correct but applicable to yourself instead. Can you accurately define delusional?
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If we're not predisposed to sin we're not beholden to the original sin and not born in need of salvation and your religion becomes a racket
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14 hours ago, Dan56 said:
True if not for free-will, but since we are not robots and capable of independent thinking, its not logical to blame God for our woe's.
If God is responsible for our environment and genetics and those are what determines how we choose then yes he is. Now you have said that the environmental option was nonsense and you have agreed with it. Obviously he would be responsible for the genetic option since he designed it. He stacked the deck from the all knowing perspective you credit him with. Yep you agree he's responsible...your just afraid to admit it
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4 hours ago, Dan56 said:
From a collection of God inspired books called the bible.
The environmental learning, yes. So you clearly agree that we are a product of our environment and genetics. And that God created and set the rules for both. And that he is by default responsible for his programming.
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2 hours ago, Dan56 said:
Nonsense.. We aren't controlled by our genetics or the environment. Christianity teaches us to overcome the world and flesh by bringing them under complete subjection to your spirit. Your essentially saying that we are all screw-ups and its God's fault. That would only be true if we didn't have brains and free will, that's what separates us from plants & animals. The choices we make are not illusions, they are very real and have consequences.
How do you learn Christian beliefs? Oh yeah...your environmental upbringing.
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We act based on genetics and environment both of which God controls absolutely. You know the all powerful bit? Then our free will must by definition be illusion. Meaning God set it up entirely
Going Backwards
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I don't think people are getting dumber. I think it's more exposure to the stupidity of complete strangers via much more information dissemination. The Internet shows us what we've always done but most people rarely encountered. Especially small town people.