cuchulain

Member
  • Content Count

    2,671
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Posts posted by cuchulain

  1. On 8/29/2021 at 8:26 PM, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:

     

     

     

    I am a poor, miserable choice to be an advocate for the religious.  Still, as the saying goes -- there comes a time when we must set aside our values and do what's right.  

     

    The manuals of mental disorder do not list religion or religious belief.  No.  Religious belief is not a form of mental illness.  I shouldn't have to say this.  History is filled with highly intelligent, brilliant minds that were -- are -- deeply religious.  I've met a few of them.  Being religious is not the same as being weak minded.  For that matter, I used to be religious.  I think my understanding of such things has improved.  In truth, I'm not actually smarter than I was then.

     

    We have such a small planet.  We have to find ways to share it and live with each other.  That includes living with disagreement.

     

    :umbrella:

     

     

     

     

    You often remind me of Dr Jubal Harshaw from "stranger in a strange land".  This is a good thing btw

  2. On 8/10/2021 at 6:40 AM, mieshec said:

     

                                                                                                                      Matthew 25

    31 "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit on his throne in heavenly glory.32 All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats.33 He will put the sheep on his right and the goats on his left.

    34 "Then the King will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world.35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in,36 I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

    37 "Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink?38 When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you?39 When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

    40 "The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

    41 "Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.42 For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink,43 I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

    44 "They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

    45 "He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'46 "Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

    And OH BOY!....WHAT AN INHERITANCE

    and he made it so easy

    no rules….no regulation….no laws

    just believe in God

    that’s all that’s required

    just believe….and God will see

    its to be….or not to be

    God sees…..evrything

    Lets start with this

    As Gods kingdom ushers in paradise….FOREVER

    God unfolds PERFECTION

    to those….like myself…..

    that just believe

    and you will be………..with me

    at the greatest party in ALL of eternity

    when God wipes away the disgrace

    that has kept us chained to hate

    in a perversion of twisted shame

    Isaiah 25

    6 On this mountain the Lord Almighty will prepare
        a feast of rich food for all peoples,
    a banquet of aged wine--
        the best of meats and the finest of wines.
    7 On this mountain he will destroy
        the shroud that enfolds all peoples,
    the sheet that covers all nations; 8 he will swallow up death forever. The Sovereign Lord will wipe away the tears from all faces;    
    he will remove the disgrace of his people
        from all the earth.
        The Lord has spoken.9 In that day they will say,

    "Surely this is our God;
        we trusted in him, and he saved us.
    This is the Lord, we trusted in him;
        let us rejoice and be glad in his salvation."

    IT ALL ABOUT THE PARTY

    AND WHAT A PARTY IT WILL BE

    Everyone is invited

    All you have to do

    ………………………its just believe

    Revelation 19

    1 After this I heard what sounded like the roar of a great multitude in heaven shouting:

    "Hallelujah!
        Salvation and glory and power belong to our God,
    2 for true and just are his judgments.     He has condemned the great prostitute
        who corrupted the earth by her adulteries.
    He has avenged on her the blood of his servants."

    3 And again they shouted:

    "Hallelujah!
        The smoke from her goes up for ever and ever."

    4 The twenty-four elders and the four living creatures fell down and worshiped God, who was seated on the throne. And they cried:

    "Amen, Hallelujah!"

    5 Then a voice came from the throne, saying:

    "Praise our God,
        all you his servants,
    you who fear him,
        both small and great!"

    6 Then I heard what sounded like a great multitude, like the roar of rushing waters and like loud peals of thunder, shouting:

    "Hallelujah!
        For our Lord God Almighty reigns.
    7 Let us rejoice and be glad
        and give him glory!
    For the wedding of the Lamb has come,
        and his bride has made herself ready.
    8 Fine linen, bright and clean,
        was given her to wear."

    (Fine linen stands for the righteous acts of the saints.)

    9 Then the angel said to me, "Write: 'Blessed are those who are invited to the wedding supper of the Lamb!'" And he added, "These are the true words of God."

    10 At this I fell at his feet to worship him. But he said to me, "Do not do it! I am a fellow servant with you and with your brothers who hold to the testimony of Jesus. Worship God! For the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy."

    This is the crazy…..unimaginable

    I will be…..among them

    SHOUTING…..

    with a multitude of unimaginable

     numbers of people

    JUST LIKE ME

    and ….THIS….is all about me

    this is going to be better than any rock concert

    ive seen

    how can you not believe?

    an eternity of shame

    torment…..for the rest of eternity

    one answer…..just believe

    ive spent a lifetime

    over 55 years

    it scared me when I was young

    and it scares the hell out of me now

    my life….i want to be

    i want to be more than I am

    i want to know how God created existence

    WELL…..ive got the rest of eternity

    im sure God will educate me

    that what a Father does with his Son

    open my eyes Lord

    and let me see

    notice the following verse

    Revelation 21

    1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

    5 He who was seated on the throne said, "I am making everything new!" Then he said, "Write this down, for these words are trustworthy and true."

    6 He said to me: "It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life.7 He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.8 But the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars--their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death."

    God will teach his children

    this is the promise…ITS GODS PROMISE

    UNDERSTAND THIS

    NOTICE

    something ive always understood and believed

    what humans do…their ideas of

    tear down the old

    and build a new

    but the rubbish in a pit

    and walk away from it

    this is satans world

    this is where sin will be judged

    and this is where sin will end

    what sin has done….is apparent

    man was given the option

    JUST BELIEVE

    2000 years without God

    of freedom and choice

    they’ve murdered Gods animals

    and some animals are no longer with us

    that’s freedom and choice for you

    you know…..its the WOW factor

    driving thru the Mt.Hood forest

    I seen it…

    before….THEY

    chopped down the trees

    crapped on the lawn

    pssed in the streams

    God says….he will make everything new

    this is no exception

    what God has done at the start

    was perfect in its perfection

    and man carelessly

    selfishly

    what about me

    didnt mankind think that maybe

    i wanted to fish the ocean

    without millions of dead people

    nuclear waste

    and just the nasty sewage of humanity

    Gods not going to undo

     what mankind has done

    God makes a New Heaven

    A New Earth

    Making Eternity Great Again

    and beyond what one can believe

    Revelation 22

    1 Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and there was no longer any sea.2 I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband.3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, "Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death or mourning or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away."

    you got one shot at this

    beyond this… your sin remains

    God made it easy

    God took care of it personally

    God paid your way

    you live less than 100 years

    and this…..is eternity

    and all you have to do

    just believe

    in this wonderful God

    the author of eternity

     

    Words written by superstitious middle eastern men 2000 years ago should not be the basis of a life philosophy.

    • Like 1
  3. 20 hours ago, Dan56 said:

     


    "For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse" (Romans 1:20). God is not a science experiment, nor can science demonstrate God, let alone prove He exist. You can't verify a spiritual entity by physical observation or experimentation. God's existence is demonstrated by all that exist, of which science has no provable answer for. Science can't create anything, it can only discover what has always been here.

     

     

    I agree with your last 3 words :)

    Your computer was created by science.  Tell you what.  You don't believe in anything not created by God?  Do us a favor and stop using it

  4. One of the greatest lies ever told was that we are born somehow wrong, in sin.  It is a lie that has led not to peace or prosperity or enlightenment but rather to suppression, murder and suffering.  The book containing this lie does espouse some truth.  After all the best lie has a little truth to make it easier to swallow.  The truth is you can judge by its fruit.  What has been wrought from the tree of Christian beliefs and the bible?  Certainly not love of everyone.  Look at the proselytizers and how they are busy condemning every other belief.  How much war and pain and evil has been wrought by those supporting this book of lies?  We aren't inherently evil, but rather start with good in each of us.  Don't surrender it to the lie.

  5. 22 hours ago, Dan56 said:

     

    If you see no sin in the world, your blind.. If you don't think you have the ability to freely make decisions, your in denial.. If you think your condemned because of something Eve did 6000 years ago, your wrong.. If you don't believe salvation is a necessity, your lost.. And if you think religion is a racket, your 90% correct.. Nonsense is the insistence of accepting a lie because of an inability to discern the truth. 

    Truth in my view requires fact.  Lack of evidence would suggest you have your statement correct but applicable to yourself instead.  Can you accurately define delusional?

  6. 14 hours ago, Dan56 said:

     

    True if not for free-will, but since we are not robots and capable of independent thinking, its not logical to blame God for our woe's.

    If God is responsible for our environment and genetics and those are what determines how we choose then yes he is.  Now you have said that the environmental option was nonsense and you have agreed with it.  Obviously he would be responsible for the genetic option since he designed it.  He stacked the deck from the all knowing perspective you credit him with.  Yep you agree he's responsible...your just afraid to admit it

  7. 4 hours ago, Dan56 said:

     

    From a collection of God inspired books called the bible.  

    The environmental learning, yes.  So you clearly agree that we are a product of our environment and genetics.  And that God created and set the rules for both.  And that he is by default responsible for his programming.

  8. 2 hours ago, Dan56 said:

     

    Nonsense.. We aren't controlled by our genetics or the environment. Christianity teaches us to overcome the world and flesh by bringing them under complete subjection to your spirit. Your essentially saying that we are all screw-ups and its God's fault. That would only be true if we didn't have brains and free will, that's what separates us from plants & animals. The choices we make are not illusions, they are very real and have consequences. 

    How do you learn Christian beliefs?  Oh yeah...your environmental upbringing.  

  9. 3 hours ago, Dan56 said:

     

    For 400 years, generation after generation, there was no solution.. God being omniscient probably knew that there would never be a solution, so he brought the madness to a screeching halt. There's no solution but one for those who continually rebel against God. Wrath is the end of God's patience. The Canaanites likely sacrificed more children as burnt offerings to Baal over 400 years than God had eradicated, so who was the real villain to the kids?  

    God being all powerful and knowing means he set the circumstances up in the first place for there to be no solution.

    • Like 1
  10. 11 minutes ago, RevBogovac said:

     

    Wait... that's that same god that killed off an entire generation of first born children just to prove a point to a Pharaoh who didn't listen to his stepbrother...? Although he is supposed to be alknowing and almighty (even supposedly hardening that same Pharaoh's heart to that same message, sic!)... that god? And you expect him and his followers to be consistent and just? WoW...

    No.  I just want them to know that I see through the game and I don't buy it.  

  11. 4 hours ago, Dan56 said:

     

    How is it wasting ones life to believe in something beyond the here & now? The hope of something better and eternal gives life meaning & purpose, and this soul soothing  peace and well being adds to the quality of life.

     

     

    By learning, your really inferring that someone see things in the same light that you see them. Perhaps the shoe is on the other foot? The human error could be yours? I can't learn that your correct because I don't believe what you believe.

     

     

    Faith has never been an argument. A person simply states why they believe as they do, its not a seductive trap, its just a reality beyond what you perceive to be real. Accepting that fact might ease your frustration.

    😐