cuchulain
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I have a friend at work who hurt his back. For those who suffer that, the design flaws are obvious.
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Here's a thought. Dan has said he doesn't believe in miracles after christ. That being the case, surely it must be acknowledged that compiling a set of stories correctly at every turn, that cutting away some, and that combining them in a way that no meaning is lost or gained would require a miracle, especially considering all the inconsistencies remaining.... I agree with dan. There have been no miracles since christ. I add, of course...there haven't been any.
A group of people with agendas meets. They compile their mythology into a codified 'perfect' book, and DON'T backstab, betray, or propogate their own ideas? Hogwash. Yet this 'incorrupted' book, which has been changed despite the recitation of the lie to the contrary, is the basis of all christian belief? Is the only 'proof'? I wont bother rehashing the forgeries of tacitus except to say if its true it shouldnt need deception to defend it.
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Most religious nonsense fills the knowledge gap. But as we learn more, the religious nonsense fills less and less, shrinking deities are not that impressive.
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It's not the imaginary God that hurts, discriminates, or persecutes us. It's his very real followers.
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Skepticism is what I should have said. I don't believe in a deity because there's insufficient evidence. I don't believe in an afterlife for the same reason.
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In opposition, the atheist promise is sweet Oblivion. Nothing after death, we prefer life before death.
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My state is one . Cop cars, plate stickers, not sure what all. It's Georgia.
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No taxation without representation should also include the reverse. No representation without taxation. But we still put in God we trust on the cop cars don't we?
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I sometimes wonder if Christian's ever stop and listen to themselves spinning the religion so it's acceptable... and think "something is wrong here if I have to spin it to be acceptable"
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I don't hate Shintoism, asatru, Wicca, Judaism...why hate something you don't believe? It's the followers that are loathe some, and the things they do in the name of their religion. And even that is a minority of followers. Most are content to mind their own business.
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I mow my yard in a pattern. I've learned from others and experience and observation. I've adapted over the years and added my own thoughts to the pattern. My yard is not identical to others and my tools are different too, so I do what works for me. I don't worry about others yards nor what they think of my pattern.
Same with religion and philosophy.
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Which of the more than 34000 versions is your accepted truth, Dan? What if you're wrong? Odin might be pissed at you when you get to Valhalla... you should repent now just in case.
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Understandable. Didn't mean to imply you weren't allowed, my bad.😀
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1 hour ago, Key said:
The first quote you presented, as you presented, did. This one fares little better to me. Death for disobedience? I'd rather have turned the son out into the world to learn how good he really had it at home, making him return begging for forgiveness, or remaining outside without being a thorn in my side any longer.
Again, key...you are debating morality with someone who thinks bear mauling is a good thing for 'little children'...you arent going to get there friend.
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And if it was inspired by the devil, it would be full of contradictions, confusion and inaccuracies... with a truth or two to make it believable...
Wait a minute...
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On 9/22/2019 at 6:10 AM, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
Your reasoning is tortured. I will keep this simple.
God did not write the Bible.
God inspired the Bible.
God did not translate the Bible.
God did not inspire the translators. They were left to their own best efforts. Poor flawed men.
God got bored and wandered off.
Your secondary argument, is that God gave us intellect, to figure things out.
No evidence. No proof. Just intellect, to see everything wrong with the inerrant word.
This is where you start in about "seeing by faith" and how much God values "belief".
Blessed are those who have not seen and believe anyway.
Around and around and around.
What ever floats your boat.
Agreed... so long as it doesn't sink my boat.
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Arguing morality with someone who thinks its good to punish ANYONE with bear mauling is a waste. It's NEVER acceptable punishment, and proves the doer is immoral...but especially against 'little children' for mockery.
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I think deity is our ego personified and so there are as many definitions as egos.
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When a person can argue"little children" into young men, they really don't need a book anymore. Might as well just admit to making it up.
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2 Kings 2:23-24 King James Version (KJV)
23 And he went up from thence unto Bethel: and as he was going up by the way, there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head.
24 And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them.
Little children...the kjv you use dan. It doesnt say young men. It doesnt specify they knew he was a prophet. It says he cursed them in the name of the lord who sent bears.
Is it blasphemy to mock a guy walking down the street, when there isnt knowledge of his protected status? Even if it is, god is supposed to be more advanced than i am. I certainly know its wrong to maul 'little children'(quit paraphrasing to suit dan, changing the words of the bible could be blasphemy)...god should know better.
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1 hour ago, Dan56 said:
In your extremely liberal mind-set, do you believe anyone should ever be accountable for anything? I get the feeling that if any of you guys ever saw a parent tap an unruly child on the rear-end for acting up in a store, you'd be on your cell phone in a second with 911 to report what you consider extreme abuse?
"And he that blasphemeth the name of the LORD, he shall surely be put to death, and all the congregation shall certainly stone him: as well the stranger, as he that is born in the land, when he blasphemeth the name of the LORD, shall be put to death." (Leviticus 24:16) .. So considering the law, those young men who were mauled got off easy.
Yep. You clearly have no right to judge anyone else's moral standards.
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I only imagine Zeus waking up after a few thousand years and coming back to see if his faithful deserve reward...
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We use to have a Jedi here.
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Wouldn't a lot of people be surprised to find zoroaster at the end of it all
Christian Threats of Damnation
in Freethought, Secularism, No Religion
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They were NOT persecuted. The council that formed your Bible did a lot of persecuting. It's history, look it up. Talk about deceptive practice to defend the truth...