Jonathan H. B. Lobl

The times are beyond strange. Look what's going on in India and Israel, with their turn to the right. Russia and Saudi Arabia are crashing the oil market, with their trade war. OPEC has come unraveled. China and Italy are in lockdown over Corona. I never saw anything like this.

Trump's Christian base believe in him. They have faith in his policies and judgement. They don't care about evidence or proof. Inconsistencies don't bother them. Does any of this sound familiar? It is a natural outcome of all that religious training. Belief is more important than reality. Even the idea of evidence, is lost on them. Of course, they want a strong, authoritarian leader, to do their thinking for them. A leader who will them what is real and what is fake. Certainly, not the "fake press." Or their own lying eyes.

As Trump himself so famously boasted -- he could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue, shoot someone, and not lose his supporters. Trump has assured the world that he has everything under control. Obviously not, but his base believes him. If the Corona virus starts killing people, in large number, he will find a cover up lie. Probably blaming Democrats and the Press. Remember. Trump's base does not hold him accountable for his lies and discrepencies. They have already forgotten -- "Mexico will pay for the wall!"

Bottom line. People are preaching without knowing who is listening. Without knowing if anybody is listening. Without the possibility of a response. So what? If it makes them happy -- so what? It's their time and effort to waste.

Indeed, there are more important things. That is why I have embraced Apatheism. Because it doesn't matter, whether or not God exists. Neither is it worth arguing about. An undetectable god simply doesn't matter.

The changing culture of Atheism and Humanism. A blogger's view. https://www.patheos.com/blogs/anotherwhiteatheistincolombia/2020/03/shadow-atheist-history-humanist/

How technology impacts religion and Atheism https://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2019/06/which-does-technology-benefit-more-christianity-or-atheism-2/

The divergence of religions and denominations https://www.patheos.com/blogs/crossexamined/2020/03/religions-continue-to-diverge-what-does-that-tell-us-2/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Imagine+No+Religion&utm_content=44

Yes. The mind does have healing ability. So faith healing, homeopathic, placebos and other frauds -- will get the credit, when healing takes place. In addition, it is often difficult to know what caused a healing. Frequently, the body simply self heals over time. Again, any treatment or therapy going on can claim credit. Even more so, when many therapies are engaged. Say, I have what I think is a cold. The doctor gives me something. I start drinking herbal teas. I start taking vitamin supplements. I'm watching my diet. I'm sleeping more. Practicing meditation. Taking a homeopathic remedy. Taking a laxative. Thinking warm, positive thoughts. My pastor prays with me. My loving cat snuggles up against me and purrs. Then I get better. Alright. What actually helped? All of it? None of it? My favorite bias?

Exposing the Faith Healers

I actually did catch the joke, even if I did go in the wrong direction. People do take holy water seriously. And Homeopathic. In both cases, a scam.

Science vs. Religion

The Catholic Church is closing down the pools at Lourdes. https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2020/03/06/french-catholic-shrines-healing-waters-shut-down-due-to-coronavirus/?utm_source=Newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Imagine+No+Religion&utm_content=44

Homeopathic remedies begin with a substance, which is then diluted down to nothing. In what way is Holy water different from water? A priest blesses it. Even now, the Catholic Church is coming up with new rules for sanitation -- to prevent contamination with the Corona virus.

Center for Inquiry Sues CVS for Fraud Over Sale of ... centerforinquiry.org/press_releases/cfi-sues-cvs The Center for Inquiry has filed a lawsuit in the District of Columbia on behalf of the general public against drug retailer CVS for consumer fraud over its sale and marketing of useless homeopathic medicines. CFI, an organization advancing reason and science, accused the country’s largest drug ... CVS Sued by CFI for Fraud Over Sale of Homeopathic Medicines ... www.mdmag.com/medical-news/cvs-sued-by-cfi-for... This week, the Center for Inquiry (CFI), a nonprofit research organization, filed a lawsuit against healthcare giant CVS for consumer fraud due to its sale and marketing of homeopathic medicines. An extremely controversial practice in the medical community, products of homeopathy are often referred to as “snake oils,” as they are rarely ... Walmart Just Got Sued for Defrauding Customers With ... friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2019/05/20/walmart... Now, CFI is initiating a similar lawsuit against Walmart. According to a lawsuit filed today in the same D.C. court as the CVS case, the mammoth chain is “committing wide-scale consumer fraud and endangering the health of its customers though its sale and marketing of homeopathic medicines.” “Walmart sells homeopathics right alongside ... CVS sued for deceiving consumers in sale of homeopathic ... sciencebasedmedicine.org/cvs-sued-for-deceiving... CVS sued for deceiving consumers in sale of homeopathic remedies. A lawsuit claiming pharmacy giant CVS fraudulently deceives consumers in the sale of worthless homeopathic remedies has been filed by the Center for Inquiry (CFI), acting on behalf of the general public. CVS Sued for Fraud Over Sale of Useless Homeopathic “Medicine ... www.patheos.com/blogs/nosacredcows/2018/07/cvs... The lawsuit includes detailed scientific evidence against homeopathy, and asks the court to find that CVS violated the D.C. Consumer Protection Procedures Act. ... CFI also asks for restitution ... CFI Sues CVS for Homeopathy Fraud | Ed Brayton www.patheos.com/blogs/dispatches/2018/07/10/cfi... CFI Sues CVS for Homeopathy Fraud July 10, 2018 Ed Brayton Patheos Explore the world's faith through different perspectives on religion and spirituality! Patheos has the views of the prevalent ... CVS Is Being Sued for Selling ** Homeopathic Products gizmodo.com/cvs-is-being-sued-for-selling... CVS did not immediately respond to our request for comment. Little and CFI filed the lawsuit hoping to take advantage of the city’s Consumer Protection Procedures Act, a statute designed to ... CVS, Homeopathy, and the DC Court System — What's Happening ... centerforinquiry.org/blog/cvs-homeopathy-and-the... Earlier this summer I filed a consumer protection lawsuit in the D.C. Superior Court against CVS Pharmacy, Inc., alleging that their stores commit fraud by displaying homeopathic products alongside science based medicine both in their brick-and-mortar stores and online. The wheels of justice tur ... Center For Inquiry Sues CVS for Defrauding Customers With ... friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2018/07/09/center... The Center For Inquiry has filed a lawsuit against CVS Health Corporation (which includes its nearly 10,000 pharmacies) for promoting and selling homeopathic remedies.. CVS is deceiving customers, CFI says, “through its misrepresentation of homeopathy’s safety and effectiveness, wasting customers’ money and putting their health at risk.” CFI Homeopathy Lawsuit Updates: An Interview with Nick Little ... skepticalinquirer.org/exclusive/cfi-homeopathy... CFI Homeopathy Lawsuit Updates: An Interview with Nick Little ... Before we get into the suit you have filed against CVS, can you explain why homeopathy and not other ... CFI Sues Walmart for Fraud for Selling Homeopathic Fake ... skepticalinquirer.org/2019/09/cfi-sues-walmart... CFI says the mega-retailer is deceiving consumers by making no meaningful distinction between real medicine and useless homeopathic treatments on its shelves and in its online store, misrepresenting homeopathy’s safety and efficacy. CFI is currently engaged in a similar suit against CVS, the nation’s largest drug retailer, filed in June ... Homeopathy Alert: CVS Sued for Fake Medicine democracychronicles.org/homeopathy-alert Comes now the Center for Inquiry (CFI), plaintiff in a lawsuit against CVS. CFI is a nonprofit educational, advocacy, and research organization, usually given to defending the teaching of real science in schools as opposed to religion-as-truth nonsense, and generally kept busy moving our society towards rational, science based policy and education. Walmart sued over misleading homeopathic product marketing ... bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/homeopathy... The lawsuit was brought by a nonprofit organization called the Center For Inquiry, which last year brought a similar suit against CVS. Walmart currently sells a wide variety of homeopathic ... Center For Inquiry Sues CVS for Defrauding Customers With ... www.richarddawkins.net/2018/07/center-for... The Center For Inquiry has filed a lawsuit against CVS Health Corporation (which includes its nearly 10,000 pharmacies) for promoting and selling homeopathic remedies. CVS is deceiving customers, CFI says, “through its misrepresentation of homeopathy’s safety and effectiveness, wasting customers’ money and putting their health at risk.” CVS Sued for Fake Medicine: Homeopathy Alert – The Moderate Voice themoderatevoice.com/cvs-sued-for-fake-medicine... CVS Sued for Fake Medicine: Homeopathy Alert. Here’s a story for today: it seems one of our largest and most trusted health care providers has been pulling a swiftie on the American public. Walmart sued for sale of "nonsense" homeopathic remedies www.fastcompany.com/90351239/exclusive-watchdog... The retailer is accused of presenting homeopathy as an equal alternative to evidence-based medication. The Center for Inquiry suit comes a year after a similar complaint against CVS. CVS Sued For Tricky Homeopathic Med Marketing - YouTube www.youtube.com/watch?v=22Sbj-fvyvM In June the Center for Inquiry (CFI) in Washington filed a lawsuit against CVS. According to Gizmodo, they claim that CVS is deceiving customers when it comes to their marketing of homeopathic ... Center for Inquiry Sues Drug Retailer for Fraud Over Sale of ... edzardernst.com/2018/07/center-for-inquiry-sues... The Center for Inquiry has filed a lawsuit in the District of Columbia on behalf of the general public against drug retailer CVS for consumer fraud over its sale and marketing of useless homeopathic medicines. CFI, an organization advancing reason and science, accused the country’s largest drug retailer of deceiving consumers through its ... Dear CVS, Homeopathy Is Bunk, Stop Selling It! - The ... theskepticalcardiologist.com/2018/09/15/dear-cvs... The skeptical cardiologist has mentioned homeopathy previously in a post entitled Functional Medicine Is Fake Medicine. but I hadn”t heretofore commented on how pervasive and useless it is. Science-Based medicine’s Jann Bellamy has recently written about a lawsuit by the Center for Inquiry (CFI) which claims the pharmacy giant CVS is fraudulently deceiving consumers by … Continue reading ... Load More Results

Resisting Homeopathic https://mail.yahoo.com/d/folders/1/messages/AGcDkxgzl4xfXmKwBArZWF30Mjc?.src=fp

Modern Pagans with a Bible world view? That seems like a bad blend.

Are you making a distinction between religion and culture? Or are they the same?

That applies to a lot of Bible believers. Does it apply to Pagans?