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1 hour ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
It's not only the government. Announcing on Facebook, when I'm going to be away from home, is not a good idea.
Phone and computer apps aren't only ways to find people and where they may be. Already in existence are cameras everywhere, now coupled with facial recognition. Soon, mayhap, will also be hidden mics everywhere with voice recognition, too?
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3 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
It is a clever design. Alas, the weakness is that it is not being applied.
Nay. The weakness is that it can be removed.
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10 hours ago, damnthing said:
But you shouldn't be surprised that I took it as sarcasm, hard to tell with you, the large font, truncated sentences and thoughts
Trust me. When Jonathan gets knives out sharp, you'll know.
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5 hours ago, RevTrucker1970 said:
But can a person legally put Dr. or Rev. using a Doctorate degree on government issued identification such as a drivers license or identification card without being placed in legal jeopardy?!
I am no lawyer, but here is my opinion. (Not a lawyer. You really should best place this question to one.)
Reverend, yes.
Doctor is another bit of a quagmire. It is generally better to not place upon driver's license or identification cards unless one is a legal licensed medical practitioner, usually accredited as such. Which excludes honorary degrees.
Upon other legal documents, it may be deemed fine, as long as the title is also followed by a couple of letters designating it as honorary. I forget how it is supposed to go as I don't use my titles at all, myself.
I think something like Dr. Soandso, PhD. a.h. (I'm probably wrong on those letters. But am sure another here will correct me. 😉)
You should, however, consult with a lawyer familiar with the laws in your area to be sure.
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20 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
Speculation aside, there is pragmatism. If ET wanted us dead, there are plenty of ways to achieve this, from space. They would have no need to introduce themselves.
Neither would they need our resources. If they can come here, they can get all the water -- or what ever else
they need -- without taking ours.
If they come here at all -- and talk to us -- we can presume that they are friendly.
I'm still thinking missionaries. That part is pure speculation.
Actually, another speculation other than "missionaries", could be scouts. Afterall, to come this far, there may not be anything left for them on their homeworld, or it may no longer exist. So, another planet to colonize. They just see us as ants in the park. And killing us from space, may just ruin the atmosphere for them.
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On 3/23/2020 at 1:31 PM, damnthing said:
At this point there is no more evidence to support a god than there is to support alien life. And as yet there is no indication of anything remotely resembling near light speed propulsion/technology. And there may never be, and there in may lie the rub: so long as the laws of physics are the same throughout the universe (and most likely are) then distance is the one thing that may never be conquered. Any signals from elsewhere will already be tens, if not hundreds or thousands of light years old and any data in those signals will be little more than a confirmation of a past alien race. We may not even ever get that satisfaction, no signal, ever, from anywhere. Just us, on a planet, in a galaxy, that rose, lived and will eventually die and no one ever the wiser.
No evidence that we know of, as yet, of light speed propulsion/technology. What an alien race did accomplish it? Perhaps they have evaded our discovering them for various reasons, some as I stated before. Maybe they even have there own code like Star Trek's "prime directive", where they merely observe without contaminating primitive societies with their advanced influence. Just saying.
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Who's to say they haven't tried contact before but decided not to engage us after observing? They may have been appalled by our aggressiveness, susceptibility to selfishness, etc.
For them to even have the tech to travel such great distances would require them to have the exact opposite behavior, even as a predatory species, I think.
Or they could have deemed us unworthy of their attention for interaction, possibly as unequal to them both technologically and possibly intellectually.
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6 hours ago, Seeker said:
Pistachio ice cream?
They might like the sweetness and texture of Rocky Road better.
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On 3/20/2020 at 6:50 PM, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
Surprise. There are plenty of bogus things on the market. It should not be so, but it is. I don't understand why the government permits this. The FDA is a miserable watch dog.
Part of the reason for it, most of those products have a small print disclaimer on them that state "any claims of product not validated or approved by FDA", or something such. So as to insulate themselves from any false advertising suits.
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1 minute ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
Clinical backing? Homeopathic? That seems unlikely. A product can be legal without being valid.
Only legal as long as it isn't making invalid claims, (even by implication in some areas).
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On 3/18/2020 at 4:07 PM, Douglas said:
All must learn to play the piano. You must git your ship TOGETHER! Everything you know is WRONG! 😜Not really. There are a great deal more assortments of instruments that can be learned other than the piano.
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1 minute ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
It's an old joke. "What do we call "alternative medicine" that works? "Medicine".
The joke isn't funny. Only true.
True, it isn't funny. 😉
If it works, and has clinical backing, even FDA approval, to prove what it does, then, yes, it is medicine and should be displayed and sold as such.
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On 3/18/2020 at 1:22 PM, Nathaniel said:
Are you all right? Calm down and reflect a bit. Your reaction is over the top, Rabbio. Also, you must be very used to being insulted by people you do not know and have not even met. I am unused to being called a liar. In 66 years that has happened maybe four times.
My advice to RevBogovac was simple and quite kindly albeit unadorned by niceties. It would do him well to alter his on-forum behavior with people he has not "met" or interacted with in any way. You would do well to place yourself in others shoes before exploding on them and being so intense and overdone. You said, "With no knowledge of RevBogovac you have relentlessly attacked his character and his motivation." Really? Relentlessly? I have no clue as to his motivation Rabbio, and did not mention it. My words and advice were as to his social behavior, not his unknowable (by me) motivations. Again, place yourself in the shoes of others. Out of the blue some fellow posts a snarky judgmental comment to me. No one takes such comments in a friendly way UNLESS the know the poster making the comment. I did not and do not know him. Now, my advice is for you to mind your own business and avoid my posts and comments. Thank you RabbiO!
I only wish I hadn't been away while this thread unfolded. I, too, can attest to RevBogovac's character from personal interaction here. He is a knowledgeable and level headed individual with a quick wit. From what I read, he was not intending to call you a liar, but was rather intending a bit of humor. (Which he also later explained.) Rather than accept this, you continued to feel offended and attack him.
Perhaps his humor was misguided, simply because neither of you are acquainted. But your continued dismissal of the intention has been equally misguided, IMO.
Now, as this is an open forum for anyone to post upon anyone else's comments, it is everyone's business of what is being read. Thus, your command for someone to avoid your posts and comments was a bit out of line.
How else does one get to know others unless by interactions, good and bad? Just saying.
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On 3/15/2020 at 7:16 AM, Nathaniel said:
I had been very strongly influenced against homeopathy by Penn and Teller and I liked to poke fun at it. Then my allergies were acting up and I went to a drug store for an antihistamine. Next to them on the shelf were homeopathic allergy pills. They were less expensive than the allopathic so I thought "What the hey. I'll give it a try" expecting them to not work and I would have to return for a bottle of allopathic medicine. Instead, the pills worked. Not as well or for as long as an allopathic antihistamine, but it worked. I was quite shocked. Though I have never used a homeopathic med again, I am nonetheless no longer inclined to dismiss homeopathy completely.
While I wouldn't completely dismiss homeopathic remedies, I also don't think they should be sold or displayed next to more legitimate medicines. Nor would I endorse them as medical cures unless there are clinical proof of it.
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Well, that is certainly a twist. Now, I'm hoping Walmart will lose their case.
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17 hours ago, Seeker said:
Yep, this link works perfectly.
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13 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
I actually did catch the joke, even if I did go in the wrong direction.
People do take holy water seriously. And Homeopathic.
In both cases, a scam.
While snake oil and sugar pills are, indeed, scams, the mind, itself, is a pretty powerful thing to be able to fool someone into getting better. Just saying.
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On 3/3/2020 at 9:07 AM, mark 45 said:
every time i type the link in it comes up as monastery.this is not what you want.
i'm not an admin,but pete is.you can contact him thru here.
Yeah, I remember you had that problem before. Wonder if the domain name was co-opted then?
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3 hours ago, ULCUK said:
Hi i am rev paul reed i was ordained into ulc in 2019. And have been studying and looking into opening a church here in the uk. So any advice would be welcome
Regards
Reverend paul reed
Your questions might be better answered by the ULC group that is already there. They use to have their own forum, as well. Maybe someone in Admin can remember the link to direct you. I know it had been shared before in another thread somewhere here.
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27 minutes ago, jackholder said:
Alcoholics Anonymous was established to support those willing to quit their addiction of drinking alcohol. It achieves its purpose through peer meetings where people discuss the addiction and its effects. It serves as a platform for men and women to talk about alcoholism, to share their stories, and to support the cause of living a sober life. The principle of AA revolves around the concept that alcoholism can be cured through effective counseling.
A little late to be of help to the original poster now, unfortunately.
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20 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
I have two different responses.
- First, if life in prison were that wonderful -- I think a lot more people would opt for it.
- Second, I expect my government to have higher standards of conduct, than criminals.
First, I never said prison was wonderful. And compared with being put to death, yes, more people do cherish life more. (Their own, that is.)
Second, I agree, but many times it doesn't.
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17 hours ago, Pete said:
Yet, they know every day will be the same as the next with no change for years and their life is ticking by. Even when the sentence is over there is no immediate release. When we used to rehabilitate it was said it was a privilege and not a right and if you hack up then you go back. Even when they are out then it is on license in the UK. That means any infringement with the law and your back inside. It is a life of mediocrity rather than luxury. I have seen petty conflict over the most stupid of things. It kills the boredom.
As mundane as it may seem, it still affords them a form of comfort. They know where they have a bed every night, and have meals made for them everyday. There are no bills to pay. No dependents to support. Yeah, that sounds like a real need for rehabilitation. Mediocre or not, they are not truly suffering, or even made to see a need for remorse. Some become institutionalized, which makes them not able to convert to life outside of prison. Still, they have a better life than they afforded their victims.
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20 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said:
There is an old curse, which I think applies here. "Don't die. Suffer." Death is the end of torment. A lingering life is not always mercy.
Just as the question of the death penalty, here, too, depends on the perspective. Life imprisonment affords them the ability to breathe air that they denied their victims, which in turn may anguish and torment the families of those victims knowing this.
Also, these predators are not being made to cry and beg for their lives as they may have done their prey.
Not saying prison is like resort living, but it isn't always the torture made out to be in movies.
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My two cents on this might not actually be worth that much to some folks, but I'll put it in just to stir some more thought into the mix.
I'm fairly conflicted on the death penalty. On one hand, the dispensary of justice for it is flawed, as evidence of possible innocents being wrongly convicted. On the other, why should a serial/mass murderer be allowed to live much longer than his/her victims, even if in prison?
If one answer to the latter is, "to reflect on his/her crimes and discover remorse", than more often than not that would be a bet no gambler would be willing to take. It would be enough for them to be alive, and some actually might enjoy remembering their acts.
Any criteria that may be established can be viewed as made with bias, no matter what it is. How can that be overcome in the interest of fairness and justice for all?
The issue is a deep quagmire of muck, even before the issue of religious conviction is factored in.
I only know that on a personal level, if a person kills a member of my family, and I know for certain who did it, I'd want them dead, too.
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Witches and Christians: A Witch Speaks Out
in Earth/Nature-Based & Indigenous Religions
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That was a fun read. Points well made, too.