Report Truth....always? in Interpath Dialogue, Universal Virtues and Values Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/12/2018 at 10:42 PM, VonNoble said: Is an omission the same as a lie? EN - Depends on whether the information was knowingly omitted or was an honest lapse in memory. Is exaggeration the same thing as lying? EN - Yes. Do most people carefully tell the truth most of the time? EN - not in my experience. Are we more likely to fudge for entertainment value, to impress....or to win when we lack proof? EN - Yes, that has been my experience. What is the most common tip off some one is lying? EN - When a story doesn't make sense, I find it means I don't have either the whole story or the true story. You can pick and choose the above starting thoughts.... with truth telling being in the news so often these days I am reflecting on that virtue. EN - Candor is a virtue. However, consider what are the appropriate limits. I believe that one should always tell the truth but no one is required to tell more of the truth than anyone is entitled to. One has a right to privacy and no one is entitled to invade that privacy without just cause. As an employer, rarely did I have a day without an employee missing the truth (for various reasons) in conversations with me... over time I came to accept that FAR FROM everything I heard from staff was true. EN - True, as an attorney I find testimonial evidence to be the least reliable. People's thoughts and recollections are often colored by multiple factors, only a few of which are motivated by an intent to deceive. People have bad memories, are prone to emotions which overthrow their ability to have unbiased recollections. Some have physical or mental disabilities that make their statements unreliable. Sometimes, the information requested does not lend itself to precise answers. And of course time plays a large factor. Our brains constantly filter the information we receive from our senses, so expecting unfiltered truth is not reasonable. I never know what to do when kids lie. With adults I usually let them continue as soon enough things unraveled.... or.... I wanted to see just where the scheme would headed. I want to know WHY they chose to lie. “Why” ....sometimes was an issue. EN - I do the same. What guesstimate do you have on the % of honesty provided to you on average in a day? Everyone is honest? Probably 5% of what you hear today is not truthful? EN - I believe it is higher. I would imagine 20% are knowing an willful lies. 20% is reasonably truthful, honest and accurate. 60% falls in the grey area where people believe things are more-or-less true when they say them but may be mistaken or have interpreted things inaccurately If each of us has lied at least once in our adult life.... is it really highly prized character trait or a wink and nod game we all play? EN - I think it depends on who you ask. I for one believe it is a moral weakness, a sin, and should be avoided by all people of good will. When is it okay to lie? If you have a good reason.... is it still a sin? EN - I suppose many would say it is morally acceptable to lie in the avoidance of a greater evil. However, I adhere to a worldview which includes an objective moral code. Immoral acts do not become moral based on intent or results. An act is either moral or immoral on its own merits, not on tangentials. Therefore, a lie, for whatever the reason, is a sin. thx von See my replies in italics in the quote above.