It is amazing how the ulcmail system works. I thank thee - was thinking it's an all enlightenment stuff from the beginning. I am still trying to grapple with the rest, dipping my hands into the ulcbank is one great idea, of course with no ill-intention in mind, more especially that it is with great tribulation that we watch them points souring by the day and dunno how to pluck em - mdtaylor you are not forsaking me are you?