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WOW....im sure glad I can think outside of the box.....and not allow the imperfections of mankind to cloud my judgement....Thank You Dan....Im use to walking among the dead....Its funny about people Dan....The manuscripts that comprise the Bible.... have been around longer than any documented works in history....and you know.....they havnt proved them wrong

OK....I apologize....I did not put evolution into proper context.....man descended from a lesser form of a created human...what paleontology and anthropology find is nothing conclusive that man derived its ancestry from a lesser created being. Their is actual proof that ancient mankind was technologically advanced, more than the primitive versions our diggers in the dirt uncover.

I dont feel that people thru out the world fully understand what scripture is. Christian religions adopt passage ways and form charters based on certain Christian fundamental teachings from the Bible. The Bible is a collection of manuscripts passed down from one Jewish family to the next. The Bible is a Jewish text....It is a history of a relationship between God and the Jews.....Its laws.....its understanding....is all about the Jews....As it is written in the Book of Romans....who are the Jews....They are administrators of Gods word....Their are binding contracts.....promises made on Gods part......The Bible is a mirror....it is a reflection of what man is....man is an imperfect creation incapable of governing himself or his environment....the Bible acknowledges this 2000 years ago.....and when the prophets predicted we would see the problems man is seeing in the world today....It is all about freewill....it is about man deciding he dosnt need or believe in God.....mankind has caused irreversible damage to his environment......and because of this.....mankind has been found guilty......you have chains on your spirit and the only way out is death....and thats no guaranty the chains will come off.....If you really understand what the Bible is.....its more than what you know.....It goes beyond the borders of this earth.....it speaks of powers......and authorities......of realms and kingdoms......If you think we are alone in the universe.....youve thought wrong.....its much more than that....according to the history of this Earth an asteroid hit the Yucatan Peninsula 66 million years ago.....it exterminated all life on the planet.......this dosnt work in scripture.....The book of Genesis dosnt work with this......along with Darwin....In the image of God you were created......and God is not a monkey....mankind was perfect from the beginning.....im sure that mankind's intellect and know how far exceeds what we are today......A book......at one time...that was in scripture but omitted because of canonization...The Book of Enoch....mankind was perfect from the beginning.....no genetic defects....lived long lives.....genius level humans was the norm....then you mix the knowledge....according to the Book of Enoch...about Angels teaching mankind forbidden knowledge......as I have said.....the Bible only gives us a glimpse of what its all about......Mankind is a speck of dust...compared to existence.....As we come into the final days of mankind.....Those whose names are written in the Lambs Book of Life.....those whose names where written before the foundations of this Earth was created....will be taken from this Earth.....and it is then we will understand.....Just how big..... Gods creation really is....Passages like this....already taking place on the Earth....already signifying it is time....Isaiah 24..... 20 The earth reels like a drunkard, it sways like a hut in the wind; so heavy upon it is the guilt of its rebellion that it falls—never to rise again. 21 In that day the Lord will punish the powers in the heavens above and the kings on the earth below......So did you get that....The Lord will punish the powers in the Heavens.....Oh and also the rebellion....which is spoken in the book of Thessalonians.....Today....even Christian religions are wrong....The whole world today is completely godless......those that think they know....really dont understand.....Another passage.....Isaiah 13...... 4 Listen, a noise on the mountains, like that of a great multitude! Listen, an uproar among the kingdoms, like nations massing together! The Lord Almighty is mustering an army for war. 5 They come from faraway lands, from the ends of the heavens— the Lord and the weapons of his wrath— to destroy the whole country. ....Its coming.......The truth is out there

The Bible is many things to many people....to many cultures and ways of life...It spans the entire history of this Earth and possibly beyond its confinement among the stars.....Its created wars....its lead to overzealous religious institutes to create laws governing its content......its brought people to the stake and burned alive for reading its content......Nero had early Christians hung on crosses or stakes covered in pitch and lit then on fire.... to act as torches for the Circensian games.....It was among the colonists that first settle in America and was always present among the early pioneers and settlers of America...Our forefathers brought a strange cult like order of men called the Masons to this country based on scripture, whose origins, scholars say.....are those who helped build the Temple of Solomon.....Today.....it is lost in translation......most of the world dont get it....it sits as an historical document on a dusty shelf......or people just think its a myth or a fairy tale.....To me......its much more than that.....its the craziest puzzle Ive ever tried to solve.....because.... their are so many variables......so much opposition....and those that live in our lifetime that claim to understand the contents of this book....have no idea what its all about.....its funny....people will just flat out be offended when people say that they understand and believe in scripture....and I just dont get that.....Jesus Christ spoke in riddles and parables...because those that dont understand....will never understand.....Riddles and parables are nonsensical gibberish with no meaning.....its a foreign language to those that dont believe in God.....What the Book is....Its a beautiful love story....its a friendship between two great friends.....with all the problems a friendship always seems to have.......its kinda like this.... in a way....im a huge music freak.....and its always with really crazy......HIGHLY creative artists that have some real Alpha Male issues.....like Ritchie Blackmore...The Allman Brothers..or one of my all time favorite Rock Artist....Brian Jones...the founder of the Rolling Stones......Brian Jones was off the charts....he could play just about any stringed instrument....very gifted....but working with him was unbearable....most rock artists seem to all be on this ....HIGH GENIUS.... artist plain and their vision forward can be quite different than their bandmates....Sooner or later theirs a fight....or tension.....a split.....a divorce......So im trying to paint this picture....I think what it needs is a little Sci-Fi...You see this ......evrytime you see this in the movies that grace our silver screen....Fifth Element.....Star Trek.....The Day The Earth Stood Still....and a new series called the Orville which brought me to this letter....Episode...Identity parts 1 and 2....It was brought up again...A race of highly intelligent robots decide to exterminate the human race....fearing that .... if they allowed the humans to live they would be consumed by their destructive nature....and then.... they bring it up......AGAIN....ALL of Mans cruelty and war....ALL of Mans insatiable lust for more....to dominate another....and destroy its environment to satisfy its need for comfort and excess.....Yep.....you see what Im trying to get at......its Not God......God gave mankind rules.....because mankind....needs discipline and guidance....mankind is like a wild Ass...you cant break a wild Ass if you dont have patients....God wants man to be obedient and this dosnt set well with mankind....so Mankind gives God the finger and for the past 2000 years are Mankind's results....of an AMAZING world that was lush and over abundant...sustainable for its entire existence.... if it was maintained in its balance and perfection......and God gives it to man ......and man ....turns it into a dirty catbox......SO.....the Bible is also a mirror of what man is....and its been recorded from the beginning......Its not God that has created the world we live in.....its a toxic environment of health decay and severe mental erosion caused by laws and social norms across a broad spectrum of cultures....and the damage is irreversible....Mankind is Guilty on all charges

I thought about this......i thought about this..... for along time.....it affected me deeply.....SO...i think of this as a new re-introduction.....a re-emergence of sort......It came from the heart......it felt like a sledge hammer to the back of the head....completely took me by surprise........I was shaken......and lost.....completely vulnerable.........I looked into the mirror....and i saw...????...singularity....a separate unit....completely oblivious to the obscurity of this world....the world i am forced to live in .....People need identity.....they need reality to be real.....they need to build a nest in a community,,,,and they need to fill comfortable....when.....chaos abounds.....they dont see with their eyes....and very seldom with their heart...and they cant see beyond....when tragedy strikes....they cant understand the world they create.....I found myself alone....I tried to use my religious understanding to weave a path thru the thickets of a lost world and industrial spiritual waste....only to be defeated and left rotting by the wayside.....my children tried to pin their father to the ground and force feed him a diet of liberal Americana.....SO......i looked into the mirror.......I saw intolerance......i saw a man......that leads one life...????....but the world requires this life........Ive separated myself from this world and now ive separated myself from my children....its this incomplete silence that lingers in my spiritual self....its meat hooks pulling me into the earth....ripping at my spirit....forward into condemnation ...if that were possible.....yet the flames of judgement have no affect upon my eternal spirit....I will not taste the forbidden fruit of American decadence.....I am singular.....without a path....with a vision....the world will pass away......and i ......will live forever

I dont believe in church......i dont believe in organized religion......i piss on church walls ALL the time....and I always feel unwelcome.....just like you feel like im pissing down your leg.....it dosnt bother me.....its my age.....i need to start wearing Depends.....because.....when i got to go.......i got to go

....SEE......Their you go again.....you are saying nothing intelligent...I HAVE SAID NOTHING ABOUT ATHEISTS BEING BLIND AND IGNORANT....in any of my discussions have i ever mentioned that....NO........

OK....i said this from the beginning....This is my canvas.....i am an artist....i am a man of God.....my discussion was not meant to offend or label anyone reading its content....if you dont like what is written.....dont read it......but instead you viciously attack my Christianity........reply's were based on an assumption i was attacking your beliefs.....I said nothing wrong.....I was apologetic on more than one occasion.....but its not myself and my Christianity that's on trial here....its making truthful statements which offends your way of thinking.....it answering the call of authenticity.....and you cannot give me an answer based on what you believe....you talk in circles......without an approach to an intelligent answer.....just a continuing barrage of questions without an intelligent answer.....the burden of proof i gave was supporting my beliefs....but you provided nothing but a continues barrage of unanswered questions intended to breakdown and dismantle the way i believe.....IT DOSNT WORK....I said.....its only ignorance if you cant understand a 2000 year legacy.....when some of the top minds in science and archaeology......sociology....have tried for years to find that one piece of evidence that makes scripture null and void.....Im not dissuaded by your threats.....REPORT MY POST....i dont care....Ive said nothing wrong.....but the reply's attacked myself and my Christianity...

Though seeing, they do not see; though hearing, they do not hear or understand. 14 In them is fulfilled the prophecy of Isaiah: “ ‘You will be ever hearing but never understanding; you will be ever seeing but never perceiving. 15 For this people’s heart has become calloused; they hardly hear with their ears, and they have closed their eyes. Otherwise they might see with their eyes, hear with their ears, understand with their hearts and turn, and I would heal them.’.............. 16 But blessed are your eyes because they see, and your ears because they hear. 17 For truly I tell you, many prophets and righteous people longed to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it................................. “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat, and went away. 26 When the wheat sprouted and formed heads, then the weeds also appeared. 27 “The owner’s servants came to him and said, ‘Sir, didn’t you sow good seed in your field? Where then did the weeds come from?’ 28 “ ‘An enemy did this,’ he replied. “The servants asked him, ‘Do you want us to go and pull them up?’ 29 “ ‘No,’ he answered, ‘because while you are pulling the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Let both grow together until the harvest. At that time I will tell the harvesters: First collect the weeds and tie them in bundles to be burned; then gather the wheat and bring it into my barn.’ ”

how did dishonesty come in on this....Im honest and truthful....I didnt change the subject..... i answered your question and submitted a Burden of Proof......i dont talk big....im honest.....truthful......and im certainly not spinning tales or folk lore....just the truth...which is found all over the world....How about you....you've grilled me on my beliefs....ive been very vocal and courteous........How about you.....what can you tell me about your take on existence....can you give me a list of museum that supports your take on existence ......nothingness is what you understand.....and nothing is what you can provide

The only evidence i need.....With all the archaeology found in the Egyptian Antiquities Museum ......The Israel Museum....which has artifacts from Masada.....the Dead Sea Scrolls found at Qumran...The name Israel is first found on a slab called the Merneptah Stele which indicated the House of David....They Found King Ahaz's royal seal who ruled Judah between 732 and 716......They are still digging up Babylon....They found the Ishtar gate.....I can keep going...here...This is my Burden of Proof...........https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_artifacts_in_biblical_archaeology One thing that's for certain....you certainly are not one....that can bring about the denial that scripture is a fairy tale....You do not stand in the shadows of those who's knowledge is in the pursuit of JUST A FRACTION....of proof.....scripture is null and void....over 2000+ years and NO ONE can prove it false........and you certainly have no credentials verifying your capable of giving me an educated answer

EVIDENCE.....WOW.....its a lifetime.....its story after story.....its digging in Egypt and Israel.....Its written in the sands of time.....its Freewill....and life without God....Its mankind....written in a book over 2000 years ago.....its like looking into a mirror.... seeing a very old man.....2000 years of age and on its death bed....its not being able to look into the mirror and asking yourself.....is this it.....is this all I am....how can you ask me for evidence......without seeing thru my eyes....you've never lived my life....so you have no clue what i see...i can give you all the evidence a man can see.....but....would you really believe me.....now would you

Believe in what???.....no hopes......no dreams.....no fairy tales........ NO LOONEY TOONS......is your imagination smaller than the universe........wider than the stars....Im just looking at the big picture.....i dont want anyone to be effected by my discussions......i just feel an urgency to be heard....the Truth is out there....im just looking at the racing program......and im always betting on the horse.....that nobody is not

OK...The challenge is this.....MY GOD.....the God of Israel.....The God of Moses and Abraham......The God of King David.....What ever you believe.....convince me....convince me thru historical records......convince me thru archaeology........Convince me by the world around us.... and its people....GIVE ME PROOF....of a plan by whatever God or whatever you believe.....is the right understanding to the explanation of existence.....If this was the trial of the century in an American court room....Im ready to submit my evidence.....how about you....RIGHT NOW......ever since the manuscripts of scripture came to the eyes of man....mankind has tried to keep them secret.....tried to destroy the manuscripts.....Burned at the stake and tortured the innocent for reading and translating the book ....even books like the Quran are in agreement with scripture......I can keep going.......whatever you believe....whatever you can convince me that my fairy tale....is just what it is.....a fairy tale.....Im open for suggestions.....But in 2000+ years of its existence.....Scripture hasnt been found to be just a fictional piece of work.....and I dont force people to look at my discussions.....Im an Artist.....if you dont like what i have to say or the way i write.....dont reply and dont look at what i write....I dont write in fiction....just the truth....

I mean.....you dont want dirty dirt.....its hard to work with....good clean dirt that someone wants to get rid of should be inspected....its like STDS....digging in someones clean dirt could yield bugs........poor dirt conditions......not healthy for young sprouts....you might want to throw a little manure on it to get rid of unwanted germs and progressing to pasteurization....I know exactly what your feeling

I wish for a simple life....away from the industry....away from the technology....away from the governments.....just a small plot of land i could live on.....grow my own food....i cant leave the US without permission....I tried to go to Canada....i had enough points for immigration.....but because of Canadian and American law....id be embroiled in red tape for years....we are free....in the confines of the American borders....but we are trapped in our own illusion of freedom....Changing the world.....is completely impossible.....I always thought.....what would be the most amazing miracle on the planet......is getting the world together and just taking ONE day.......to just stop......shut down the machines of industry......and just stop......this would be impossible......in one day the world would loose Trillions of dollars.....just for stopping.....but one day.......it will change......it will stop......im just a dreamer........thank you for your patients and understanding

Im nothing more than a small voice seeking attention....calling out from the cesspool i wade in evryday.....im a loner and a very private person....my intentions are sincere....not to be overbearing and willfull....I struggle daily with my Christianity and Im very opinionated.....and I aplogize

I apologize.....i just get frustrated.....I see things differently....and my eyes are open....i just dont understand how to make people see with their own spirit....and not the false image they see evryday....because its the most easy way to come to the throne of God.......just believe

Its not meaningless......i want to live forever......i want to see my family......i want to explore the earth.....which man has destroyed.....no other book in existence gives clear definition of WHAT WE ARE......accept the manuscripts in scripture....The creator of existence....speaking thru the Jews......."BELIEVE IN ME".....and I do..........if thats all i have to do for an eternity of living in a city that is adorned in gold and precious jewels.....WITH GOD.....FOR ETERNITY.....You want to think its folly and foolish......but they keep digging up proof in Israel and the Middle East.....of these manuscripts....its just ignorance if you dont see truth in God

Sufficiency of scripture.....It is the infallible and undeniable truth...It is the sole infallible " GOLD STANDARD" of faith and understanding.....we are back at that..... " HOW CAN YOU BE SURE"......Its a fairy tale.....its an historical document.....it came from man......"HOW DO WE KNOW".......whats on the other side....as ive said in previous topics.....you can believe what you want.....you can have a meaningless existence......you can believe your nothing more than worm dirt....but its much more than that .....Why would anyone believe the capabilities of the human.....was meant to last less than a hundred years.......and then......DIRT NAP......We are a created being.....given FREEWILL.....but with huge limitations......we are IMPRISONED.....on a huge magnetic furnace.....which is very much like a huge precise clock.....evrything has been set......PERFECTLY...(mankind screwed the planet up.... so we are out of balance)....the earth constantly spins revolutions around another EXTERNAL magnetic furnace....giving humans the four seasons.....You just cant seem to come out of your singularity.....So we dont believe in God....cuz....he's not here......we dont believe in Scripture.....because i dont understand......we dont believe in scripture.....because ive never seen a miracle.......i dont believe in scripture.......because i cant see......correctly.........SUFFICIENCY OF SCRIPTURE .........Its like a court room with all the people that comprise a court room.....and your the juror....gathering facts.....listening to statements given by witnesses......WHAT DO I BELIEVE.....and this is your singularity....you cannot seem to think outside of the box.....you point yourself in the direction of your vision....NO PERIPHERAL VISION.....just tunnel vision.....and adhere to self made standards......not taking in the whole picture......and carving out your own singularity.....Defining scripture is life long adventure for me.....its a 50 year+ adventure....putting together a jigsaw puzzle.....THAT MAKES PERFECT SENSE.....in your singularity......you cannot do this.....LIKE THIS......their are many parts of God.....ALL ARE ONE.....IN GOD.....and GOD IS ONE......the angels.....are one in God.....if you believe in Jesus Christ.....you are ONE....in God....but in your singularity......Doubt.....i dont know.....what do i believe.....and this is why.... this .........EXCLUSIVE.....swanky......CLUB GOD.....in which i pursue......is so foreign to your way of life.....its TOO MUCH OF A FAIRY TALE....to be true .......and THAT MY FRIENDS....is the beauty of scripture.....SUFFICIENCY OF SCRIPTURE.........Scripture has inconsistencies....with human error....its not perfect....So take it or leave it......Old Testament manuscripts have been found.....without the hand of the scribe.....in QUMRAN.....where some believe John the Baptist may have visited.....they are still finding amazing discovery.....way beyond what they believed.....only to build the strength of INFALLIBILITY.......THAT...... THEIR IS A GOD........THIS IS .....GODS WORD.......God used the Jews to make his purpose known.....and it was the Jews that made the world aware of this God.....SO WHAT MANKIND HAS ADDED TO HIS DESTRUCTION.......is the ability to twist and pervert these words....to fit mankind's "FREEWILL".......Scripture is a horse race......Im not betting on the loosing horse........Im not going to tell myself that.....i am Born.....im a teenager......im a young man.......im am an adult........and then the process of dying begins.....Be Empty....without meaning or destiny......if thats what you want to believe.....i dont grieve for the dead.....I never grieved for my grandmother......she lived 90 years.....she is with my grandpa.....I PROMISE.....and i will see her again......You can live less than 100 years.....and believe in nothing.......or you can believe in Eternity........FOREVER......IN A NEW HEAVEN AND A NEW EARTH.....and i like that

"The World I Know" Has our conscience shown? Has the sweet breeze blown? Has all kindness gone? Hope still lingers on. I drink myself of newfound pity Sitting alone in New York City And I don't know why. Are we listening? Hymns of offering. Have we eyes to see? Love is gathering. All the words that I've been reading Have now started the act of bleeding Into one. So I walk up on high And I step to the edge To see my world below. And I laugh at myself While the tears roll down. 'Cause it's the world I know. It's the world I know. Collective Soul

"The World I Know" Has our conscience shown? Has the sweet breeze blown? Has all kindness gone? Hope still lingers on. I drink myself of newfound pity Sitting alone in New York City And I don't know why. Are we listening? Hymns of offering. Have we eyes to see? Love is gathering. All the words that I've been reading Have now started the act of bleeding Into one. So I walk up on high And I step to the edge To see my world below. And I laugh at myself While the tears roll down. 'Cause it's the world I know. It's the world I know. Collective Soul

This was kinda addressed to one of my replies I received....seriously.....I dont like titles....Ive recently adopted a new Identity because of inclusion and racism..I am a unit....i am nothing more than a unit......believe me when I say....I think its ridiculous......I think the human race is going insane......humans without God....advancing from the nuclear to AI.....is just a sign....mankind will hit the wrong switch and it will disappear in a flash.....if God would let that happen.....Evrything seems to be moving in the right direction........into the depths of depravity....suffocating on the cesspool MANKIND ingests in copious quantities..... So think about this.....what would it have been like to set foot on this continent.....and all of a sudden out of the shadows.....the North American VERY TANNED previous land owners of the U.S.....see white man for the very first time......id say one thing......AWKWARD......can I borrow a cup of sugar....It must have been that left turn at Albuquerque......I bet pristine American was beautiful.....I bet seeing New York would have been a trip.....Just think....if you knew about lobster and Cod......Lobster clings to the shoreline....their must have been 10's of thousands.....I dont know if i could get sick of lobster or Salmon.... it was more than plentiful.....hunting for Meat.... was right out your door....I mean Early America must have been a plentiful harvest for all....North American VERY TANNED previous land owners of the U.S.....have lived here for thousands of years.....some say they came over across the Bering straits land bridge.....I think there is more to it than that.....whats weird.....from the Aztec's.....the Hopis......the Mayans .....the North American VERY TANNED previous land owners of the U.S....they knew something was amiss...The (Hopi: Hisatsinom or Navajo: anaasází)......they knew something.... Hopi prophecy .... a time would come when life would become out of balance.....Scientist have already said that the earth has recently begun to wobble.....i mean the weird weather patterns we are seeing .....sure show it....it can also be found in certain Bible prophecy.....I guess what im trying to say is..... scientist have studied the ancient people of North America....and they seem to have disappeared....at the same time.....the North American VERY TANNED previous land owners of the U.S.... seemed to be the only ones that stayed.....and they are among the countless created living creatures....that stood in the path of the murderous European white man.......raping and killing....bulldozing....blacktop....high rise......LETS PISS IN THE RIVER.....LETS TURN THIS BEAUTIFUL LAND INTO A CAT BOX.....and they did..... the North American VERY TANNED previous land owners of the U.S .....they kept America in its wild beauty...for thousands of years.....within 242 years of the white European.....they went from crawling out of the sea like a fish....to walking across America...and taking a HUGE DOOKIE....on THESE UNITED STATES.....we went from little house on the prairie....To....SPACE....the final frontier.......we went from The Andy Griffith show....to Rupauls Drag Race.....in 50 years.....YEP.....MANKIND SURE CAN RUN A PLANET