mererdog Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said: Not in binary. There are no 5s in binary. If your answer to that question is valid, a valid answer for any true/false question is "Not if we're speaking Mandarin." That feels more like a dodge than an answer, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 2 hours ago, VonNoble said: True or false 5 + 5 = 10 True. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan H. B. Lobl Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 55 minutes ago, mererdog said: There are no 5s in binary. If your answer to that question is valid, a valid answer for any true/false question is "Not if we're speaking Mandarin." That feels more like a dodge than an answer, no? This is for a philosophy course. Not a computer graded exam. Philosophy questions have a way of looking simple -- even simplistic -- and then jumping on basic opening premises. We are starting with the premise that the answer is true or false. To me, it smells like a trap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark 45 Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 hours ago, VonNoble said: Along the way we wasted much time discussing sunsets by beaches being beautiful always....what is Beauty.... and how awful life must be for people who add color-blind von while it may seem that way,being color blind myself doesn't mean that i don't see colors,or what i may consider beautiful.i just see it differently than most other people.by the way,most males are color blind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonNoble Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 6 hours ago, Jonathan H. B. Lobl said: Not in binary. I’ll take your word for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonNoble Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 hours ago, mererdog said: None of that is a wasre of time. Sort of depends on your priorities at the moment doesn’t it? von Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonNoble Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 hours ago, mererdog said: True. You are correct....that was the ONKY one we did not dissect over and over and over... von Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonNoble Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, mark 45 said: while it may seem that way,being color blind myself doesn't mean that i don't see colors,or what i may consider beautiful.i just see it differently than most other people.by the way,most males are color blind. I am happy to learn a bit more into that view of things. Until yesterday I am not sure I ever thought about how that must be..... thx von Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonNoble Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 True or false I know that the Earth is spherical (not flat.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Key Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, VonNoble said: True or false I know that the Earth is spherical (not flat.) False. Unless you're looking at it from space, you know the earth looks flat, not spherical. Know is subjective to perspective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, VonNoble said: You are correct....that was the ONKY one we did not dissect over and over and over... von Math is built to be simple. Every symbol has a specific meaning and a specific relation to every other symbol. Until you try to apply the math to the real world, the rules are straightforward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonNoble Posted March 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 58 minutes ago, Key said: False. Unless you're looking at it from space, you know the earth looks flat, not spherical. Know is subjective to perspective. Love this....wish you had been there to help us....NONE IF US thought if that... you geta gold star von Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, VonNoble said: Sort of depends on your priorities at the moment doesn’t it? von Nope. That only changes how you feel about it. Imagine you mow my lawn for me, and I give you a hundred dollar bill in exchange. Imagine further that you don't know what a hundred dollar bill is. Naturally, you feel that your efforts were wasted. After all, what are you supposed to do with this tiny piece of weird cloth? But when you later learn that the bill can be used to purchase goods and services, you realise that your initial judgement was wrong. What you received for your efforts had value, it was simply value you could not appreciate at the time. But what if you never learn what a hundred dollar bill is? You will still have recieved something of value for you efforts, so your efforts were not wasted. What is wasted is the value of the reward recieved. In the same way, you get something of value from these exchanges, so your time is not wasted. But if you fail to see the value in what you get, you probably wont make good use of that value and it will go to waste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, VonNoble said: True or false I know that the Earth is spherical (not flat.) The Earth is not spherical, just round. But, yes, I know that. JTB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Key said: False. Unless you're looking at it from space, you know the earth looks flat, not spherical. Know is subjective to perspective. I have more to go on than how it looks to me. I have the words of those who have circumnavigated the globe. I have the work of scientists and cartographers who have measured the circumference of the globe. I have photos taken from the moon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kaman Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, mererdog said: I have more to go on than how it looks to me. I have the words of those who have circumnavigated the globe. I have the work of scientists and cartographers who have measured the circumference of the globe. I have photos taken from the moon. Your photo taken from the moon shows the earth to be shaped similar to a plate. Maybe a flat plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan H. B. Lobl Posted March 8, 2018 Report Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, VonNoble said: I’ll take your word for that In binary, everything is either a 1 or a 0. There are no other numbers. In binary, the other numbers don't exist. A 10 is not a ten. It is a one and a zero, but it is not a ten. That makes asking -- if something equals a 10 -- a trick question. You have been deceived. Anything built on that deception will be false. Edited March 8, 2018 by Jonathan H. B. Lobl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mererdog Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Brother Kaman said: Your photo taken from the moon shows the earth to be shaped similar to a plate. Maybe a flat plate. The majority of photos of Earth from the moon aren't disc shaped. They are truncated by shadow. And the curvature of the shadow is exactly what you would expect if you were looking at a ball that was only partially lit. Still, it isn't just about perceived shape. It isn't about one piece of evidence, or one type of evidence. It is when looking at all the evidence as a whole that find the truth. In the picture highlighted in this article, you can clearly make out the northern edge of Africa. If the Earth is flat, where is the US? Edited March 9, 2018 by mererdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingfisher Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 7 hours ago, VonNoble said: True or false I know that the Earth is spherical (not flat.) I don't know if I know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonathan H. B. Lobl Posted March 9, 2018 Report Share Posted March 9, 2018 39 minutes ago, Kingfisher said: I don't know if I know that. It is possible to have too much intellectual purity. I know that I know that the Earth is round. Not a perfect sphere. Actually, egg shaped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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