Jonathan H. B. Lobl Posted September 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2017 3 hours ago, VonNoble said: Labels. Perhaps that very issue is what drove a goodly number of us to join ULC. Even that causes confusion. Is the UNIVERSAL LIFE (some reference to God who ever was and every will be)......thereby making this church somehow tied to the notion of God? OR is UNIVERSAL LIFE a reference to the fact that we reincarnate and our impact upon mankind moves forward beyond death in some way? OR was it just a version of trying to come up with a no denominational concept at the time? Labels are such pesky devils. I suspect like many - I have toyed with several and never quite find an exact match up. The other problem for more than one of us - when I do find one that sort of fits we can't quite affix it. I seem to find (almost as quickly as I settle upon one) - I find all too quickly, a few other people sharing the label who are far afield to one side or the other - with the basic beliefs. They quickly put on and sport the label without a commitment to adhere to the basics (or ever for pity sake to understand the basics) Radical extremists seem to be on the bell shaped curve of every label so it makes it difficult to wanna join in. If you are guilty by association with the dunderheads you end up spending a bunch of valuable time explaining, apologizing or being frustrated by the least of your brothers. Time better spent doing good quietly. It is enjoyable to see the lengths to which creative writers do wordplay to invent proper labels. I am seeing that the labels we choose are diversifying into numbers akin to that of snowflakes and fingerprints. Not having a label is also problematic as it smacks of not winnowing down beliefs enough to find a common denominator with others. Being label-less too i s a bit faulty in presentation. Labels are a convenient starting point, a quick reference tool for us to smell out those who are alike and different from us. Unfortunately many people never get beyond them. Labels can become the yardstick by which others judge your hypocrisy. So they work to attract and repel people in about equal measure. Forgive the rambling..... von You have stated some great truths. It is difficult to communicate with others with no label at all. Then we look at some of the people who have taken on the same label; and it's guilt by association. As a matter of ULC history; Kirby got started by putting a big sign on his garage. The sign only said "CHURCH". When people wanted more detail, it became "Universal Church". "Universal Life" was a later development. Based on this, I'm certain that Kirby had no hidden agenda about God or reincarnation. Of course, Kirby changed over time. For part of his life, he was a traditional Christian preacher. Some of his later sermons looked a lot like Atheism, without the word. Quote Link to comment
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