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LOL, Raven - folks are always assuming they know my mind..... you have not even slightly aggravated me... I read the bits you post and try to follow along.

and I was not talking about having a church - I've discovered that a minister is a minister, all of the time.....

In my mind, it's more about an instinct, deep inside - even if we do not realize it on the surface - and a bad taste in your mouth doesn't last forever ( there's interesting things out there for a flavor changer, now and again )

It was my intention to poke you, to keep your eyes open for those small moments when you can be of use to another in your daily life.... That is ministering as well - and there is no congregation to manage.... and you do not have to wear the Pastor badge....

I have noticed that folks appreciate my kindnesses to a greater degree, when they have no idea I am a minister... I love to anonymously minister - it fills my heart like nothing else ( I cannot quite explain why I get so much more joy from it - I just do... ) I help folks with flat tires on thee road, visit old folks who are so alone it is painful, visit inmates who have burnt every bridge in their life from a burning frustration ( that I have felt ), and smile and talk kindly to folks for "no reason"..

no one I know, knows I do these things.... ( except Y'all - and those who have seen me going about my life ) and THAT gives it a very personal flavor..... which heals something inside me....

you make some very good points

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you make some very good points

your words frequently draw something from me I do not know what to do with....

But I can feel the fluctuations in your energy - man, you need a flat spot in your energies..... just a break or something.... I don't know....

:wacko: can't get a grip on this one.....

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Raven:

Just an outside look that I hope sheds more light than heat -

If I read correctly, you are ordained. Unless you have done something seriously wrong, and I don't think you have, the only one who can change that status is you. So, in that sense, once clergy, always clergy.

There is a difference between "being" clergy and "doing" clergy. That is, one can have the status and do absolutely nothing with it, or one can do quite a bit. Choice is yours.

You seem to have been knocked about by the winds of life. Those storms can hurt badly. Take a moment to reflect. You have been perfectly candid on what made you first move to become clergy. Could it be you find your needs have changed, or perhaps there is a need you find yourself called to serve? Let yourself listen to that guiding voice within you. Perhaps you are not even acknowledging a need that is calling you in a voice so soft it is hard to hear in the noise that is life.

My favorite saying as regards clergy life. You may not feel like anything, but to someone you might be everything.

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My favorite saying as regards clergy life. You may not feel like anything, but to someone you might be everything.

now there's a keeper....

thanks to you and Bro. Sky for you honest and heartfelt advice....it feels like a breath of fresh air....hard to find on the internet these days because everyone has to protect themselves an such and as a result there is not alot of honesty on the web.

I will continue to carry the ULC with me as I enter into a new community with BMI. BMI presents a much more intense situation with a serious contract that carries with it legal consequenses in the sense that you can only be signed to one royalty company at a time...unlike the ULC, in entertainment you can have only one "ordination", if you will.

I hope to take what I can from the advice, from my own experiences, from my own mistakes...and Not make the same mistakes I that made here, over there at BMI. I am forever grateful for what you guys (ulc.net) have allowed me to get away with. You've helped me to grow and mature. I'll never forget you.

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I am forever grateful for what you guys (ulc.net) have allowed me to get away with.

You've helped me to grow and mature.

I'll never forget you.

I hope you also won't "depart from us", Raven!

:coffee:

Edited by Hexalpa

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Remember, you have a home here, and people who do care about you.

And if you think your ministry doesn't affect anyone, let me tell you about the time that sealed my fate as a member of clergy.

My family thought my ordination was a joke. Just go on the 'net abe become a minister... sure. They do not understand the concept of ordination by proxy, which the ULC, and the church I grew up in both use. It is a legal matter... you do not simply become clergy because you decide to, the church must ordain you, and there are real people in Modesto who witness this request, stand for you, for me, and all the others who seek ordination through them, and then record it in the church records.

Anyhoo... back to the life changer.

I had my little place on the internet, and thought no one gave a good hoot about my site. Then I got the email. A young man sent me a note that his parents did not believe in an Almighty and forbade him to go to church. He went to my site because I supplied him the same service he would have gotten had he "escaped" and gone to church. This poor kid (at the time) woke himself up at 2 am once a week just to read the service I posted. Most kids his age were surfing porn instead.

That was over 8 years ago. Not too long ago, I heard from this young man, now a bit older, who is now on his own and is interested in becoming clergy himself.

That's the thing about being clergy: you rarely know whose life you may affect for the better. Trust me in this, though - you have made someone's life better, and I promise you'll never know who, or when, until you face your day of judgement (if your belief includes such a thing - I have to quote from my beliefs, it's all I know).

All the best,

Br. Devon

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I hope you also won't "depart from us", Raven!

:coffee:

no, you know I can't keep away...(mind if I rant) I'm working on a video for Spoorsack right now for the song "he disappears", and working my day job as a carpenter... hope to have a teaser up here for ya very soon...my dad is talented as all get out but he has no business sense whatsoever, and no idea what is or isn't a single...I picked that song out of the bunch because I heard a single, you can get it for free off the website. This lady who works the Los Vegas circuit as a nightclub singer approached them and wanted to record a song with them. They make an excellent song and then bury it in the back pages of the site in favor of songs that are, in my opinion, mostly drivel.

I also managed to blow up a $600 air compressor today.

I've got issues.

Good to hear from you again, Hex. :)

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Remember, you have a home here, and people who do care about you.

And if you think your ministry doesn't affect anyone, let me tell you about the time that sealed my fate as a member of clergy.

My family thought my ordination was a joke. Just go on the 'net abe become a minister... sure. They do not understand the concept of ordination by proxy, which the ULC, and the church I grew up in both use. It is a legal matter... you do not simply become clergy because you decide to, the church must ordain you, and there are real people in Modesto who witness this request, stand for you, for me, and all the others who seek ordination through them, and then record it in the church records.

Anyhoo... back to the life changer.

I had my little place on the internet, and thought no one gave a good hoot about my site. Then I got the email. A young man sent me a note that his parents did not believe in an Almighty and forbade him to go to church. He went to my site because I supplied him the same service he would have gotten had he "escaped" and gone to church. This poor kid (at the time) woke himself up at 2 am once a week just to read the service I posted. Most kids his age were surfing porn instead.

That was over 8 years ago. Not too long ago, I heard from this young man, now a bit older, who is now on his own and is interested in becoming clergy himself.

That's the thing about being clergy: you rarely know whose life you may affect for the better. Trust me in this, though - you have made someone's life better, and I promise you'll never know who, or when, until you face your day of judgement (if your belief includes such a thing - I have to quote from my beliefs, it's all I know).

All the best,

Br. Devon

You are like a mentor to me, perhaps mostly because I trust you, and trust is not something I just give out to anyone. And I know where to find you, if I need you.

All the Best

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no, you know I can't keep away...(mind if I rant) I'm working on a video for Spoorsack right now for the song "he disappears", and working my day job as a carpenter... hope to have a teaser up here for ya very soon...my dad is talented as all get out but he has no business sense whatsoever, and no idea what is or isn't a single...I picked that song out of the bunch because I heard a single, you can get it for free off the website. This lady who works the Los Vegas circuit as a nightclub singer approached them and wanted to record a song with them. They make an excellent song and then bury it in the back pages of the site in favor of songs that are, in my opinion, mostly drivel.

I also managed to blow up a $600 air compressor today.

I've got issues.

Good to hear from you again, Hex. :)

Sorry Dad, but it had to be said...and if anyone has a clue where I can find a "CBB60 70uf =/- 5% 250AC" capacitor I can probably get that compressor running again...

...ahhh..always love the mornings that follow a night of heavy rain

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and of course my girlfriend dumped me, for about 8 hours and then she called me back...I don't know...not sure why I really need a girlfriend anyway, she just can't handle the whole thing and she feels like she is losing control over me, and of course, she is...

I'm stuck in this odd place in life where the people I care about the most want to see me destroyed, and the people I know so liitle about are making me lucrative offers.

And of course signing contracs

Edited by Ravenstrikes

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and of course my girlfriend dumped me, for about 8 hours and then she called me back...I don't know...not sure why I really need a girlfriend anyway, she just can't handle the whole thing and she feels like she is losing control over me, and of course, she is...

I'm stuck in this odd place in life where the people I care about the most want to see me destroyed, and the people I know so liitle about are making me lucrative offers.

And of course signing contracs

I posted that huh? Well its all true.

I've been in talks all day with everyone from the lawyer to the landlord...my mind is melting.

I don't know if I still have a girlfriend or not and I'm not sure if I even care.

I just wish she would try...try,try,try to understand...sighs

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someone is sending me healing energy...and it sure as heck ain't my girl... I can feel the heal....not sure, but I suspect its not too late for the Sky....I'll get it together, someway, somehow.

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maybe, cause she's back...ohh, sweet love, sweet love (think that was Commodores who did that song))

yep, it was.

...not the most photographic bunch.... Lionel Richie looks like he's been running around on the carpet with just his socks on an picked up a bit of static electricity

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the best thing about the '70's,( besides all the talent that was just floating around), is that most folks can't remember much of it, particularly the ones who where there.

Edited by Ravenstrikes

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