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Rev. Dr. Dean Ray

Religion Versus Science

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I said that God can't be defined.

And why not?

At least, not in a useful way.
I know people who seem to make good use of their definitions of God.

One definition of god is to be undefinable.

I always liked that joke.

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Even things that can't be defined have characteristics that can be defined. Life, for instance, can't be defined but has characteristics. Living things have digestion, elimination, growth, movement, etc.

Does God have characteristics? In classic Monotheism, God is All Knowing, All powerful and All God. Pantheism goes into a different direction with different characteristics. The purely philosophic God -- First Cause, etc. -- has different characteristics.

In the end, I doubt if any of it really matters at the end of the day.

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Religion versus Science?!?!

What is the question, exactly??? The two are different, and similar, all at the same time. Some now even say they agree.......is that your question? (I understand the OP did so 4-5 years ago.....nevertheless).....

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Creationism and evolution are two completely different theories, explaining two completely different concepts.

Anyone with common sense understands that.

"common sense" tells you that the world is flat....

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Looks flat from what I can see with my eyes. Pictures don't count, they can be doctored.

Really? It looks pretty lumpy to me. Even the flattest places I've lived had some rolling hills. Also, there is a clear curvature visible when I look out from the beach....

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Really? It looks pretty lumpy to me. Even the flattest places I've lived had some rolling hills. Also, there is a clear curvature visible when I look out from the beach....

The Earth is flat as in flat upon a disc. Get close to the edge of the disc and you will see curvature.

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Get close to the edge of the disc

When you approach a cliff, you can't see the shape of the drop-off until you're looking down at it. And the beach is not close to what I can see from it. I've been out there in boats. It's BIG. Like Yo Momma Joke big...

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Now that we have had our giggles -- does anybody still think that science and religion are compatible?

There is nothing about the two that makes them fundamentally incompatible. But specific religions are incompatible with science and science is incompatible with specific types of religiosity.

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There is nothing about the two that makes them fundamentally incompatible. But specific religions are incompatible with science and science is incompatible with specific types of religiosity.

Religions are often in dispute with science except where science proves religion is accurate. Anything that doesn't jibe, religion rejects. Science is all about factual findings or probable theory, and really couldn't care less about religion. IMHO.

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Science as an idea doesn't care one way or the other, true. My religion doesn't reject science. I am sure there are others who don't as well. If science disproves something I believe, then I reevaluate my beliefs, and determine where the error occurred, and redesign accordingly. Admittedly, I haven't heard of many religions willing to do that.

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Admittedly, I haven't heard of many religions willing to do that.

Religious beauracracies, like any bureaucracy, move slowly. http://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/31/world/after-350-years-vatican-says-galileo-was-right-it-moves.html

The laity, who make up the bulk of any religion, are usually more pragmatic, less dogmatic, and therefore more open to change.

Edited by mererdog

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The biggest conflict continues to be Creationism vs. Evolution. In particular, what is taught in Public Schools.

The Catholic Church has made peace with Copernicus and Galileo. There are elements of Islam which have not.

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