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There have been atleast 3 cases sponsored by the ACLU that have been brought. One was found favorable for the ULC in Bucks County, but only legally applies to Bucks County. I haven't seen the results of the other two yet.

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I am sorry, I am new here. What's going on with ULC & the courts?

Basically as I understand it, Pennsylvania requires an ordained minister to have a "regular congregation" prior to being allowed to perform marriages. The issue with the ACLU is that if someone is an ordained minister, he/she may not have a "regular congregation" but that this requirement discriminates against ministers who provide ministerial assistance to the military services, teaching ministers, etc. who may not be allowed to marry people then. At least this is how I understnad it based on the information I read. As the ULC does not require an ordained minister to have a "regular congrgation", this means that an ordained ULC minister may not be allowed to perform marriage in Pennsylvania.

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Basically as I understand it, Pennsylvania requires an ordained minister to have a "regular congregation" prior to being allowed to perform marriages. The issue with the ACLU is that if someone is an ordained minister, he/she may not have a "regular congregation" but that this requirement discriminates against ministers who provide ministerial assistance to the military services, teaching ministers, etc. who may not be allowed to marry people then. At least this is how I understnad it based on the information I read. As the ULC does not require an ordained minister to have a "regular congrgation", this means that an ordained ULC minister may not be allowed to perform marriage in Pennsylvania.

Actually, their law requires the minister to be associated with a "regularly established church". Not to have a congregation. That is why Bucks found for the couple. ULC is a "regularly established church". I think this one is all over but the crying.. But, law is never completely predictable.

also from one of the articles

"In the last three months, the ACLU has won similar victories in a Montgomery County case involving another ULC minister and in a Philadelphia case involving a Jesuit priest."

The jesuit priest case will cinch this state wide, I suspect. Jesuits rarely have congregations, but no one is going to tell them they can't perform marriages.

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Well York County says it's not, Bucks/Montgomery says it is. So it's a bit more up in the air then ever, unless it goes up to a state level court, or that State Statutes are changed to more clearly define what they mean by "regularly established church" which several State Reps have tried to do, by eliminating the the ULC in a manner very much like the overturned Utah statute.

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I am not sure the Jesuit case will have alot of bearing on the ULC in as much as it is hard to argue that the RCC is a "regularly established church" and as an Order have been in existance since 1534.

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