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Bro. Hex
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Jonathan is right about one thing: THOSE CHRISTIANITIES ... they come in a wide variety.
Pagan is good.... Neo or otherwise, I suppose. The Christians of old (or their Master) demonized the Pagans most unfairly. It was all about "market share", although no one called it that back then. Just as it was with the bad-blood between Christians and Jews back then. The Christian tradition has always been an Omnivore... and has adopted (co-opted, really) ideas and traditions from every competing tradition that it encountered.
Having said this much, I suppose it is somewhat "odd" that I continue to self-identify as "a Christian"... but I do. I suppose it derives from an stubborn refusal to "let the bad guys win". Understand that I am using the terms "bad guys" metaphorically., and that what I mean to imply is something closer to "misguided".At any rate, I am not willing, so far, to allow "Christianity" to be defined by those people who practice a judgmental, punitive, hierarchical, dogmatic, rigid approach to what "God" is all about.
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I don't see science as dogmatic... at all.
Science... legitimate science... is evidence-based, and always open to revision if and when new evidence arises.Evidence itself, of course must be objective evidence, and not mere opinions or "feelings" (no mater how many people espouse such).
While I do acknowledge that "pure objectivity" is difficult (if not impossible) to achieve, as long as one is following scientific methodology,
as rigorously as possible, one will attain the nearest approximation to objectivity that is possible within the human condition
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Call the ambulance...
and don't tell the hospital how you know "what you know"
You haven't said "He told me this", so you haven't violated "the seal",
Just say: "I can't tell you How I Know, but I KNOW...and this man needs a stomach pump"
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Want to know what NEFARIOUS machinations
one of the WORST OFFENDER "FAKE ULCs" around is "up to" these days ?:WE (The "Good Guys"..members of .the ORIGINAL Universal Life Church)
operate this "Modesto sanctioned" forum, right ?
And our URL for this forum is ... what ? FORUM.ULC.NET right ?
So this is what new URL that THE MONASTERY has chosen to obtain: FORUMULC.NETWhich will get you a REDIRECT to: http://www.themonastery.org/ordination
(which isn't even "a forum" at all !!!)
Notice the "missing dot" between "FORUM" and "ULC" ??
That's dishonest, low-life and disgusting... "in my opinion".just the sort of thing that I have come to expect from themonastery.org
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I would NEVER put Amy Long, or her ULC Seminary, into the same category with the "fake ULC sites" (such as the Monastery).
For one thing, she is "in communion with" Modesto. For another, I like her products.... and her self.
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If "Atheism" can be someone's religion (and some atheists claim that it is),
I don't see why Universal Life can't be "another religion", and therefore a religious "denomination".
Ask yourself this: Is Scientology a "denomination" ???
(many Scientologist say "yes, it is")... and it certainly is NOT a subset of Christianity.
If Scientology can be a "denomination" (and/or a Religion... even though it posits no "God" as such), why can't we ???If anyone is uncomfortable saying that their denomination is "Universal Life", why not just say that you are
a Unitarian, or a Universalist (U-U), which is a RECOGNIZED denomination, and one with which ULC is a "perfect fit" ?
Just say that you are a Unitarian, unaffiliated with any U-U congregation !
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I vote with Kirby (and BpCorey) I say we are a denomination and our Creed is "Do that which is right"
A denomination (subgroup) of what?? of RELIGION.
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I am pretty darn sure that lordie is right, BpCorey.
I think that if you have been "turned down" for food stamps OR Medicaid coverage that you need to seek a local advocate for the rights of the poor. I cannot IMAGINE how you manage to survive on only $300 per month (free abode, or no free abode).
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Sin is.... perhaps.... a religiously "inspired" concept (within our culture...I cannot speak for other cultures).
EVIL is a MORAL concept which may, or may not, be "tied" to sin (in the minds of people who believe in sin).
One does not have to be religious, or even a God believer, in order to have a moral sensibility.
Atheists can, and often do, behave according to their own moral sensibilities.
Evil is, to my mind at least, a very real hypostasis, whether or not a quality of "persona" is attributed to it. -
Box top? cheek!
It is just that they cannot stand the fact (that)
there may be free thinkers out there they cannot control.
I am proud of my ULC ordination.
As am I, Pete !.gif)
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I was once told by a former member of this forum that I couldn't have a philosophy without having studied the great philosophers and their philosophies.
Whoever he was, he was wrong... ludicrously so !!
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Please feel free... every now and again...
to remind us of this Wiccan Rede
It is far too easy for we non0Wiccans to forgetthat which we see or hear infrequently
Thanks for sharing!!
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100% with you AV. Amen my friend.
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My "Philosophy of Religion":
Be Kind.
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In one of those books mentioned above, I recall the author saying (paraphrased): that the numerous inhabited planets of sentient life across the Universe, each one has a base idealism/philosophy/emotion to teach us.
Perhaps Earth and it's particular role in the Universe is to teach fear?
GREAT! JUST MY LUCK...
OF ALL OF THE POSSIBLE PLANETS IN THE UNIVERSE..... I GET "PLANET FEAR"
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I guess I don't see how god being good necessitates our being good too. Is there no way that god could be good and we could be evil? Or vice versa?
I guess I don't follow that line of "necessity" either.
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Do you believe God is not good? Interesting thought. Would you say that God's just plain bad
or is God in some way beyond good and evil. What does that look like, I wonder?
If you really wonder what that would look like, do a bit of nrt surfing on the topic of Yaldabaoth
(alternative spelling = Ialdabaoth)
and/or "The God above God"
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I'm sar-reee,
I'm sar-arr-ray !!!!
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I totally like the subject matter of this thread... There SHOULD be lots of "secular" benedictions. There is nothing in the nature of a blessing that necessitates a creed of any sort... it just takes a change of perspective to get used to this concept that runs counter to our cultural expectations.
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So you believe that God is both imperfect and limited?
Which God?
Jehovah?
Definitely.
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Sagging pants are only one way to deal with a painful nerve disorder like the one you describe. You could wear loose-fitting light-weight pants. You could wear a kilt. You could wear a dress. You could wear a robe. When choosing a solution to your problem, you would do well to consider the judgements of others, instead of simply saying that they have no right to judge you. This is both because the judgements of others will effect your quality of life and because the whole "we have no right to judge" thing is really just a way to judge others...
Could not have said it better, merer. Thanks for putting so well, something that I was only "intuiting" !
"Judging is wrong and stupid"
No it is not. Judging is how we tell the difference between "safe" and "not safe". You judge or you die. The trick is to try to judge fairly, and to remain willing to change your judgments based on new information.
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And social programs are the means to domesticate human beings. To control their actions and environment, limit their movement, and make them more docile, all for the purpose of extracting a desired resource from them with as few complications as possible.
I'm not suggesting limiting genetic diversity, I'm proposing limiting the behavioral modification by the state, for the sake of the survival of our species.
People need to earn what they need to survive, by fulfilling the desires and needs of others. There is nothing more egalitarian or altruistic than the free market.
I agree with you on some aspects of your observations, Pan, but not on others.
Yes, social programs are a tool for domesticating human beings. But I disagree with your cynical view that the purpose is to render people "more docile". That is just one way of viewing things... and I think it is a jaundiced view. It is equally valid to suggest that the "purpose" is to render society more "civil". .. or to enable more people to attain their potential. There are many possible, and perhaps actual, "purposes" for domestic programs. It strikes me that you object to these programs because they are "unnatural, even artificial". But societies themselves are "artificial...man-made... un-natural constructs... as are "markets" and "marketplaces". And "free markets" only exist in fantasy tales. All markets that the world has ever witnessed have been skewed and manipulated by those who would attempt to attain a monopoly, or by those who would create artificial shortages, or those who would strive to destroy a competitor. Competition is a buzz-word that all entrepreneurs pay vocal homage to, while in truth, they do everything in their power to avoid effective competition.
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Most young guys who "sag their pants" do so because "they think it is cool".
It appears to be a "gangsta fad". And in a sense, it really IS "gangsta",
because this "practice" originated in prison yards around this country.
What (I am relatively sure) most of the young dudes who do this don't realize
is that this practice originated in the prison yard as a way of advertising:
"Yo, I am available for anal sex"
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"Live free or die" seems to have been replaced by, "Enslave me if you must, just don't let me die." We must live our lives without fear. We can never prevent all things that threaten us. We can, however, approach life without fear.
AMEN!
Freedom of religion must also include freedom from religion. This would seem to be achieved only through a secular govt
AMEN!
When My Faith In Christianity Erodes
in Stories & Texts Archive
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Excellent suggestion, Leo...
assuming, of course that Raincloud returned to Christianity in a somewhat "reflexive" fashion...
still a good question, in any case.