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  1. Beside the whole using these to argue for the existence of God thing, I think they make perfect sense. In to color, I don't think that is a good application, being color blind for one, it is an irrelevant point to me, and pretty subjective to anyone else.

    Im thinking more along the links of a chair...........a chair cannot be a chair and not be a chair at the same time, a chair is either a chair or not a chair, and a chair is infact........a chair.

    Yet a chair was not always a chair and wont always be a chair, and depending on perspective really isn't really a solid chair now, but an assembled group of quantum energy swirling about moving through space at fantastic speeds.

    So the chair is really a dynamic thing which is constantly changing

  2. I would think they would worship whomever created them, especially since whoever created them would also have the power to destroy them.

    Then if they were intelligent they would eliminate that creator, especially if said creator acted tyrannically and threatened them constantly with destruction.

  3. If a loving human father can forgive his children for their misdeeds simply out of compassion and love with no recompense required, how much more compassionate and loving is your God?

    Tyrants, bankers and judges demand recompense, and never is the righteous and just payment that of an innocent human sacrifice.

    So one must ask them self, does the deity they worship resemble more the fearful tyrants of the world or is their deity the ultimate example of a loving sophisticated father.

  4. I would think fair would be an opposite and equal reaction for every action, but then there are instances where this isn't necessarily the case.

    If someone accidentally steps on my foot or knocks me down is it fair that I in return stomp on there foot or shove them down to the ground? Methinks not.

  5. I make numerous lotions and potions from essential oils and I also believe that they "could" help. That said, I have no idea which oil or combination of oils could do the trick. It is like saying medication could help without saying what medication.

    Brother Kaman what brand essential oils do you prefer? I have a few and love the way they make my room smell I usually burn Frankincense, Rosemary or Peppermint. Just a few drops of peppermint are great. I did 5 drops in some water one day and the smell overpowered me in my room.

  6. If the electromagnetic force cannot be overpowered by gravity then how is it that neutron stars have all the electrons squished out of them?

    Never claimed the electromagnetic force could not be over powered by enough gravity. Mass is condensed energy after all.

    How could the electrons escape from such a strong gravitational pull. If they were forced out of the neutron star itself shouldn't they they still be pulled to the vicinity of said star?

  7. There are a great many links and sources that describe what you state. The most common reference is the "four fundamental forces."

    But what Hawking was describing was THE strongest force in the universe. Of the four fundamental forces, gravity is usually considered the weakest force in the universe but in the form of a super massive black hole, gravity is actually strong enough to not only pull light in but it can also hold whole galaxies together. While a magnet may be able to pull something away from the surface of the earth it would never stack up next to a super massive black hole. The example of a magnet as big as a black hole is ridiculous proofing. Heres a better example: take all the matter in the universe and make it into the biggest black hole ever, then take all the magnetic material in the universe and make an object next to this black hole. it would be like comparing Earth and the the Milky Way. There just isn't enough magnetism in the universe for it to be of an significant force. Gravity on the other hand is everywhere, and in everything. and forms of mass produces gravity.

    When super massive black holes are found to not be the strongest thing in the universe, perhaps Hawking will then be proven wrong.

    Thank you for your patience with me.

    All matter was once collected in one spot and yet some force blew it into tiny quantum bits throughout our Universe. The background radiation which is electromagnetic energies makes this clear.

    I would think that once again electromagnetic energy won that battle. Also doesn't light escape massive black holes all the time in the form of pulsars and quasars where once again electromagnetic energy is stronger.

    I'm not big on science but I'm sure equal amounts of matter and electromagnetic energy will result in the electromagnetic energy winning every time. Don't need to go the massive size of black holes. Take any small niobium magnet and place next to it an equal size piece of iron. You might want to keep your fingers out of the way as the electromagnetism may take your fingers off after its shrugs off the effects of gravity like a flea.

  8. And yet neither the comb or the paper bits falls off the face of the planet, nor defies universal gravitational forces that shape planets, galaxies and universes. After all, planets are not drawn together, clumped together like bits of paper, under some galactic comb. Case closed, really? Come on dude, seriously, stop debating me and debate instead Hawking's assertion. Or, if you like, the assertion itself.

    I don't understand what portion of this factual statement you don't understand.

    "In fact, Gravitational force is 10 thousand billion billion billion billion times weaker than the Electromagnetic force. Well, it sort of makes sense because if the Gravitational force were stronger than the Electromagnetic one, we would fall right through the floor!"

    Where is Hawkings statement that contradicts that. No link please

  9. And yet, If enough matter is present the slight gravitational force will cause the matter to accumulate together until, when it reaches a critical level the electromagnetic force will be overwhelmed. If a certain greater amount of matter is present, the weak force is overwhelmed, then finally the strong force is overwhelmed by yet more matter. In the end all other force can be overwhelmed by the force of gravity.

    The bits of paper demonstration works in this part of the universe, and under the the conditions present here. This does not mean the same thing applies everywhere. It does not apply on the surface of a neutron star, nor past the event horizon of a singularity.

    But you could say that under conditions a this force can overwhelm that force, under conditions b that force will overwhelm this force , and that in all conditions neither force is stronger.

    With enough matter!!! Lets see since matter is massive amounts of condensed energy to begin with given equal amounts of both, say a gram of electromagnetism and a gram of gravity (if it were possible to contrast equal measures of both) then once again electromagnetism would over power gravity by leaps and bounds.

    The scenarios you listed include massive massive amounts of matter which shoots the amount of concentrated energy off the charts. There is no wonder then it seems as if gravity wins. A few billion mice could take on Hercules and win too. :)

  10. NO. Falswo has not made his case. His is the pretend world of the statist..... I could go on ad nauseum, but I choose/agreed not to.

    Ok Youch. put small small bits of paper out on a table. Then rub a comb through your hair and hold it above the paper.

    The electromagnetic static energy in that little combs lifts and pulls the bits of paper away off the table from the full gravitational force of the whole earth. CASE CLOSED!

  11. It is not impressive when you assert a member is wrong, then when presented with contrary evidence, ignore it. Did you think I would forget?

    I'm not picking a fight, I just assumed you'd finish the dialog.

    You still want to assert gravity is not the strongest force in the universe? I hate to say it, but given your proclivities, I must say, PROVE IT.

    By the way, I learned that gravity is the strongest force in the universe by reading and listening to Hawking. I'm not qualified in any other way to make such an assertion. But argue against him if you must......

    "In fact, Gravitational force is 10 thousand billion billion billion billion times weaker than the Electromagnetic force. Well, it sort of makes sense because if the Gravitational force were stronger than the Electromagnetic one, we would fall right through the floor!"

    I think the fact your brain hasn't been pulled through the carpet fibers proves it.